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Old 09-19-2019, 06:58 PM
Vettepartz Vettepartz is offline
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Were all of the guns sold recently from the CMP marked with an arsenal rebuild stamp? I was talking with someone who sent their money in on one and got back a RR that has no Arsenal stamp on it. I wonder if he got REALLY lucky or is just blowing smoke.
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:09 PM
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No, not all were rebuilt at facilities that marked them.
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:59 PM
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Hi, easy to find out ask to see his CMP Certificate. You could also post this question on the CMP Forum. All the ones I have seen were "marked" but I only saw the ones that were posted on line. Mine had a "SA" rebuild stamp; some had all kind of marks including dates. IMHO the thing to get was a matching slide and frame rebuild marks to me are inconsequential. My pistol was 100 years old so a rebuild mark is normal, regards, Mike
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:55 PM
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My CMP pistol is a 1913 model, but has a mid-1918 - 1919 barrel and safety with a lot of 1943-ish Remington Rand parts. So, I know it has been in an arsenal around 1918 and again around 1943, but I have no arsenal rebuild stamps anywhere. Not all rebuilds got stamped.
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:19 PM
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At the same time there are pistols with arsenal stamps that never had a thing done to 'em.
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:35 PM
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At the same time there are pistols with arsenal stamps that never had a thing done to 'em.
I have one of those
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:37 PM
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there were a few on the CMP forum that were posted without arsenal stamps .
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:41 AM
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No, not all were rebuilt at facilities that marked them.
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Skeet6, what are the names of these facilities?
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:37 AM
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Its also a question of 'period' in which the gun was overhauled because after WWII they seemed to sometimes not mark the pistols that were rebuilt/refinished. There is one that marked them with an 'electro-pencil' with 'LEAD' - that was Letterkenny Army Depot in the '70s-early '80s. I've only seen a handful of these. OTOH, some depots continued to mark with the dies just as always, such as 'ANAD' (Anniston Army Depot) which usually included a date, frequently in the 1970s.
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:05 PM
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At the same time there are pistols with arsenal stamps that never had a thing done to 'em.
In studying some of the information available on Springfield (and Remington built) M1903 rifles, it was mentioned by one of the administrators on the M1903 website that there were 1903s which had arsenal stamps, but weren't "rebuild" stamps (I won't go into the difference); after WWII, rifles not issued because of the war's end and not needing a rebuild were sent to an arsenal simply for inventory purposes (and I believe I have one).

In any event, perhaps that's why some of these have arsenal stamps but have not been rebuilt - condition didn't warrant it and it was simply stamped for inventory purposes.
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:42 PM
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The one I got from CMP had no arsenal marks but is an obvious rebuild. The frame is a 1944 Ithaca that was delivered to the Fleet at Norfolk that year. The gun has a replacement Colt hard slide and a new IMI barrel from 1985. All of the small parts appear as new. As near as I can tell it was likely rebuilt/assembled at NSWC Crane about 1989. The gun presents as new except for a little bit of holster wear on the right grip panel. Probably not a collector piece, but it is a shining example of a 1911A1 as issued.

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Old 09-22-2019, 12:04 AM
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My CMP RemRand frame, NO 1776772, had no rebuild marks, a Colt slide, and replacement barrel marked ".45 AUTO 7791193."
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:28 AM
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I received a RR frame with Ithaca slide. All of it, including the barrel and mag, had a fresh medium-gray repark on it. There wasn't a single wear mark on the pistol nor were there any rebuild markings.
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:18 AM
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A gun show and internet myth. Not all U.S. Government weapons were arsenal rebuild stamped. What's old is new again. Many were not marked as rebuilds. Some were and some were not . Recent CMP 1911 from the government arsenal not marked. It is noted in many places ,even in Clawson's 1911 bible. Many are marked and many are not,same with Garands and carbines. Mixed parts are normal. Parts were not sorted by maker,but by part only. You have a Real U.S. Government issue 1911!!
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