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Old 02-15-2020, 12:13 PM
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If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.
I agree completely. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people but he didn't hate them the way the Left in America hates us. They would have no problem killing us all if that is what it takes for them to have the type of dominance they seek.
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:32 PM
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Pray for peace.

Prepare for war.

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Old 02-15-2020, 12:56 PM
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I fully agree with this post.

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I think the media is our biggest enemy without their dishonest steady stream of propaganda the left would not have the strong foothold they hold in our government. If they had always been honest and reported the truth many of the leftist leaders would have been defeated or imprisoned for their corruption.


War or no war I will not comply with any unconstitutional laws passed by lying corrupt leftist who would gladly imprison me just because I don't vote the way they want me to. If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.
It used to be that if you owned one media outlet in a large city for instance. Say like a newspaper or radio station it was against the law to own another one like say a television station.

Well as luck would have it. Slick Willie changed all that. He signed into law a very big and all encompassing telecommunications act. Legislation was certainly needed at the time as cell phone usage, internet, cable and other media was really starting to take off. But the powers that be really slipped some things in there that were not all beneficial to you and I. An example of this is the fact that all cell phones sold in this country are required to have a GPS locator in them. So the whereabouts of any individual in the country that happens to be carrying a cell phone on them (turned on or not). Their whereabouts can be tracked at any time by the government. How convenient for them.

More to the matter at hand, all of the restrictions on ownership of media outlets was removed. The consequence being that 90% of all media outlets in this country are now owned by six individuals. Jeff Bezo's ownership of the Washington post is no accident.
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:47 PM
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I think the media is our biggest enemy without their dishonest steady stream of propaganda the left would not have the strong foothold they hold in our government. If they had always been honest and reported the truth many of the leftist leaders would have been defeated or imprisoned for their corruption.

War or no war I will not comply with any unconstitutional laws passed by lying corrupt leftist who would gladly imprison me just because I don't vote the way they want me to. If you allow yourself to be disarmed by these people you will be at their mercy and I really don't think they have any.

When we say "the media"...

What we are really talking about is six people.
(Yes, there are more involved, but the "media" is owned by only six corporations - which are each controlled by one head.


https://www.dailyinfographic.com/the...ce-infographic


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Today, six colossal media giants tower over all the rest. Much of the information in the chart below
comes from mediaowners.com. The chart below reveals only a small fraction of the media outlets
that these six behemoths actually own….
Time Warner
Home Box Office (HBO)
Time Inc.
Turner Broadcasting System, Inc.
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
CW Network (partial ownership)
TMZ
New Line Cinema
Time Warner Cable
Cinemax
Cartoon Network
TBS
TNT
America Online
MapQuest
Moviefone
Castle Rock
Sports Illustrated
Fortune
Marie Claire
People Magazine
Walt Disney
ABC Television Network
Disney Publishing
ESPN Inc.
Disney Channel
SOAPnet
A&E
Lifetime
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista Theatrical Productions
Buena Vista Records
Disney Records
Hollywood Records
Miramax Films
Touchstone Pictures
Walt Disney Pictures
Pixar Animation Studios
Buena Vista Games
Hyperion Books
Viacom
Paramount Pictures
Paramount Home Entertainment
Black Entertainment Television (BET)
Comedy Central
Country Music Television (CMT)
Logo
MTV
MTV Canada
MTV2
Nick Magazine
Nick at Nite
Nick Jr.
Nickelodeon
Noggin
Spike TV
The Movie Channel
TV Land
VH1
News Corporation
Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
Fox Television Stations
The New York Post
Fox Searchlight Pictures
Beliefnet
Fox Business Network
Fox Kids Europe
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Net
Fox Television Network
FX
My Network TV
MySpace
News Limited News
Phoenix InfoNews Channel
Phoenix Movies Channel
Sky PerfecTV
Speed Channel
STAR TV India
STAR TV Taiwan
STAR World
Times Higher Education Supplement Magazine
Times Literary Supplement Magazine
Times of London
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
20th Century Fox International
20th Century Fox Studios
20th Century Fox Television
BSkyB
DIRECTV
The Wall Street Journal
Fox Broadcasting Company
Fox Interactive Media
FOXTEL
HarperCollins Publishers
The National Geographic Channel
National Rugby League
News Interactive
News Outdoor
Radio Veronica
ReganBooks
Sky Italia
Sky Radio Denmark
Sky Radio Germany
Sky Radio Netherlands
STAR
Zondervan
CBS Corporation
CBS News
CBS Sports
CBS Television Network
CNET
Showtime
TV.com
CBS Radio Inc. (130 stations)
CBS Consumer Products
CBS Outdoor
CW Network (50% ownership)
Infinity Broadcasting
Simon & Schuster (Pocket Books, Scribner)
Westwood One Radio Network
NBC Universal
Bravo
CNBC
NBC News
MSNBC
NBC Sports
NBC Television Network
Oxygen
SciFi Magazine
Syfy (Sci Fi Channel)
Telemundo
USA Network
Weather Channel
Focus Features
NBC Universal Television Distribution
NBC Universal Television Studio
Paxson Communications (partial ownership)
Trio
Universal Parks & Resorts
Universal Pictures
Universal Studio Home Video
These gigantic media corporations do not exist to objectively tell the truth to the American
people. Rather, the primary purpose of their existence is to make money.

These gigantic media corporations are not going to do anything to threaten their relationships
with their biggest advertisers (such as the largest pharmaceutical companies that literally spend
billions on advertising), and one way or another these gigantic media corporations are always going
to express the ideological viewpoints of their owners.


Fortunately, an increasing number of Americans are starting to wake up and are realizing that the
mainstream media should not be trusted. According to a new poll just released by Gallup, the number
of Americans that have little to no trust in the mainstream media (57%) is at an all-time high.
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Old 02-15-2020, 02:09 PM
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And, if I may add....

from a couple of years ago.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katevin.../#2ce7048e660a


Conflict of interest?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...c58_story.html
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Old 02-15-2020, 02:18 PM
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Why do I get the feeling that we are going to find out?

And in my lifetime?
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:05 PM
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hmmm its going to be 1776 again
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:29 PM
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:32 PM
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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:28 PM
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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
Same can be said for "sanctuary" jurisdictions for illegals. Answer is the same, regardless:

Lack of political will. No more, no less. Nobody has had desire to do so.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:30 PM
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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
Why don’t they come down on the governors of the states that support sanctuary cities? Or the mayors that run those cities? SCs are in violation of the Constitution and those governors and mayor are in violation as well. Plus, they let illegals get DLs now in some places which can easily give them the ability to vote.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:52 PM
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But Americans resisting mass gun confiscation will not need to defeat the feds.They would merely need to wait until government agents commit horrific blunders that turn millions more Americans against Washington. That pattern has repeated itself in American history in federal gun crackdowns gone awry.
I think if we hang for a while, that will play out. Good link cavelamb.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:41 PM
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Virginia? When the POS liberal retard Democraps take over, gun control first baby!
re: VA.. OBTW- SOMEBODY in VA voted these Democrat idiots into office. Yes, they almost all came in from DC area- too expensive to live there on Government salaries- so they infest VA and take over like the Muslims. Perhaps VA can last long enough to stop the Democrats- perhaps not. NOT voting has consequences too. it elects Democrats. Pretty much is the same treason as voting democrat
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:50 PM
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It sure would mean civil war to me. What are you going to wait for...them making you bend over?
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Old 02-19-2020, 06:20 PM
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The logistics of gun seizure in this country are mind boggling. The entirety of the military, plus the FBI, plus local law enforcement would have a hard time finding and removing firearms from every household. Also it would take all of those entities complying, and working in unison to even come close to mass confiscation. This is a long game people, make your words and your vote count.
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:06 PM
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This is What They Will Do First!

When the gov't gets to the point that they could try confiscating firearms, it will be controlled by the left (obviously).
They won't begin going house to house to confiscate firearms. They don't have to. They will make it difficult to live. They will identify gun owners. Then they will be able to take our social security, empty bank accounts, force health companies to cancel your health insurance, force banks to cancel credit cards, force local governments to turn off utilities, force employers to fire these employees.

This way won't have to start violent situations.

This is real scary to me.
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:38 PM
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What we have to worry about is if they get into power and change the constitution.

Then it WON'T be unconstitutional.
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:58 PM
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Sure they can try to do any of these things.

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When the gov't gets to the point that they could try confiscating firearms, it will be controlled by the left (obviously).
They won't begin going house to house to confiscate firearms. They don't have to. They will make it difficult to live. They will identify gun owners. Then they will be able to take our social security, empty bank accounts, force health companies to cancel your health insurance, force banks to cancel credit cards, force local governments to turn off utilities, force employers to fire these employees.

This way won't have to start violent situations.

This is real scary to me.
And they will no doubt make themselves really popular while they are doing this.
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Old 02-19-2020, 09:35 PM
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Ahhh, the subject of insurgency, my bread and butter...
I don't think there will be an armed insurgency over gun rights. The math just isn't there to support it, nor are their strong national pro 2A leaders.
While its popular on gun sites to pound ones chest and talk about how you'll stand and fight, the securities and comforts of life, and the stability of family isn't something one will easily sacrifice. Americans are not made of the same stuff as they were in 1775...
The Mk 1 Mod 0 defense to this is "I'm staying and fighting "... its nonsense. In the last 5 years (probably more) there have been exactly zero pro 2A victories or headway in places like CA, NJ, NY, CT, etc. Lots of significant losses, and greater infringement. We have members in such places, and they stay.... there is no "fight", those places are wholly and completely lost. People stay primarily for $, but also for comfortable familiarity, climate, family... if they're not willing to accept any of these with no physical risk, why would one believe that they'd sacrifice all of that AND put themselves in harms way as well?
I agree with the "probiotics " (great simile by the way) as some secondary and tircerary things that may be of benefit. However, probiotics don't inoculate one from or cure cancer. They may make you a little mor comfortable, buy you a few extra days or weeks, but the end is the same. Cancer requires decisive, aggressive treatment; that hasn't happened at the National level.
People are voting with their feet and moving out of NY, NJ, CA, & IL, second Amendment freedom is just one of many reasons. I don't know about CT, all that I can say is that I will not move there.
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:20 PM
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interesting topic. there are many factors to ponder. one being the age and mindset of those at the time.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:06 AM
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re: VA.. OBTW- SOMEBODY in VA voted these Democrat idiots into office. Yes, they almost all came in from DC area- too expensive to live there on Government salaries- so they infest VA and take over like the Muslims. Perhaps VA can last long enough to stop the Democrats- perhaps not. NOT voting has consequences too. it elects Democrats. Pretty much is the same treason as voting democrat
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:39 AM
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When the gov't gets to the point that they could try confiscating firearms, it will be controlled by the left (obviously).
They won't begin going house to house to confiscate firearms. They don't have to. They will make it difficult to live. They will identify gun owners. Then they will be able to take our social security, empty bank accounts, force health companies to cancel your health insurance, force banks to cancel credit cards, force local governments to turn off utilities, force employers to fire these employees.

This way won't have to start violent situations.

This is real scary to me.
Then what do you suppose will happen? Mass retaliation? Those making the decisions at the top had better live in a bunker because none of them will be safe. I have said it before, just keep on pushing....There will come a point in which the armchair quarterback conservatives will get off their butts when they have had enough. This country will be in for a fight like history has never seen. The Dimtards know it too....
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:43 AM
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So why don't the Feds come down on those states that have legalized pot? I would think those folks who sell out of a store front would be easy targets.
It’s all one big experiment. They are watching to see exactly what happens when en entire state is wasted. The pickings should be pretty easy. Just like a carrot on a string.......
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:50 AM
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Assuming an all Lefty Government:

Answer is, confiscation will only be attempted in a limited set of venues like some cities. Because these are relatively small area with often "army" size police departments.

In the vast majority of America, it will not be possible logistically. It will be "one-off" events, finding guns as a side effect of things like traffic stops, or maybe cops coming into your home because you pissed off your wife and she called on you ;-).

Civil war? Wow, we have covered that in a lot of threads lately...Without organization, team-work, solidarity, sanctuary, support of local PD, it will not be very successful.

One against many, a gun owner doesn't have much chance of survival. That is just the reality of it and has nothing to do with who thinks their brave or who they want to accuse of not being brave.

That is why the Patriot-Miracle in VA is so impressive, they moved the ball forward dramatically in this regard. The "story" has a long way to go in VA and more plans are needed in case the "worst-case" comes to pass, but they have a fantastic start and are heading in the right direction to win their "Civil War" which will bring benefit to all of us.

Lets pray this all gets solved peacefully and according to the constitution. There is a lot of reason to believes this could happen given what POTUS has been doing with the judiciary and how far "to-communist" the left has gone.
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Old 02-20-2020, 07:02 AM
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I think a lot of people will be surprised. If the threat of confiscation across this country becomes “real”, not just cities banning a mag, organized efforts will bloom overnight. People will be told to go to X and so and help by doing whatever. The effort will be massive. Once again, the turds at the top best be hiding in a bunker. We are coming to take your lunch away buddy!!
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