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Old 02-03-2020, 03:49 PM
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Springfield Armory Professional, Tutorial Requested

Help! I bought a gun I know nothing of and I need to get up to speed.
The gun is a 99%, 10/2013 build SA Pro which says safe queen to my uneducated eyes.

I assume right away I will want to lube everything and give the lube time to migrate. I have some Mil-Comm Revolver Blast which is designed to penetrate hard to reach parts which is my plan.
The grips allow access to the mainspring housing pin. Should I pull the grips to see what is going on under them?

It's my understanding this is a hard fit gun, is that correct? If so do I slather it in good lube and shoot 500 rounds before attempting taking it down?
I really need advice on this issue.

The Black-T coating. This will be a shooter but I want to give it every advantage holster wise. This is not a pretty gun so I'll hold off on a kangaroo-sharkskin holster till I get my polished blue Alchemy 1911.
Does the Pro finish stand up better to leather or kydex?

I should have possession in a couple weeks so now all I have is questions.
All responses welcome.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:13 PM
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Congrats on the pro.....I saw where you snagged it on the other forum. Your gun was built in some of the best times for SACS in my opinion. I have owned nearly a dozen SACS, and my 2011 built pro operator was one of the best built handguns I have ever felt....unfortunately I traded that one off for another piece....

If it were me I would lube it and shoot the dog piss out of it....Rob @ alchemy customs actually has great advice on his Instagram or YouTube on how to properly take down a hard fit gun, as well as the proper lube points....I believe both of the videos you seek are on his Instagram.

For me the black t finish is kind of soft....so kydex wil eat it up. I had my custom carry 9MM done in black t and the finish wore after a few dozen presentations...that however didn’t bother me..SACS guns are purpose built hard use guns and I can care less about holster wear.

When taking it does wn pay close attention as to not turning the barrel bushing when the barrel is in battery...this will make more sense after reviewing the videos Rob put out, but the short reason is that turning it while in battery will shorten the barrel/bushing fit sooner than needed .

Here are links to his Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6TVH8lHZq6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6jLecCpj5d/

This guy is hands down the MACDADDY in the world of 1911’s...when he speaks I listen.

My pro before I traded.


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Old 02-03-2020, 07:22 PM
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It's good to hear from someone that actually had one, I don't wanna make some rookie mistake with it.
I will study the videos.
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:45 PM
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I got mine from a member of the Texas law enforcement community. Barely used...tight as a bank vault...capable of much better accuracy than I have the control to use. Love it to pieces.

I'm with jmb501. Lube it up and let it run! Can't advise you on leather or kydex for this - mine goes from box to line to cleaning to box. (And jmb, that's a BEAUTY!)

Would like a second one from the "actual issue" serial range once I've moved a few of my other pieces. Not because the ones after that have any issues; just a feeling that what came off the bench during the FBI HRT contract might be a bit more - hell, I don't know how to describe it.

My go-to continues to be a full rail loaded op.

Whatever you do, don't go over to the Calling All Operators thread. :-) There, you've been warned!

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Old 02-03-2020, 08:48 PM
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Great guns like jmb501 has said anything older then dec 2014 . Seem
like more attention was paid to them . Or maybe it was because we had
to wait 2 years or more to get ours once the order was put in .

leave the pistol alone other then make sure its lubed before taking it apart
for the first 500 rds . Run the pistol get it good and hot so everything breaks
in nicely .

Leather holster , Never kydex

leave the grips on

Can't wait to hear from you after you get to shoot it

All great Rob video's
hard fit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb1NX3bW258&t=1s
oiling a 1911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2h_JGBp1gc
taking your gun apart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2h_JGBp1gc
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:11 PM
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That's exactly what I'm looking for, guys.
Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:08 PM
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All advice before this post is solid. Lube and shoot. Take it down correctly NOT the GI way.

Leather or Kydex, whatever works for you. The finish is expendable. It's a tool finish.

It is an outstanding example of what all 1911s should be.
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Old 02-04-2020, 12:31 AM
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This is an older video from Rob, and it shows a Baer pistol, but it goes into better detail on how to disassemble a hard-fit 1911. As others have mentioned, please do not try to disassemble your Professional the old-fashioned way. I did it the first time I field stripped my Pro and it was a total horror show. I ended up leaving an ugly scar on the recoil spring plug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhPari7dpc&t
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Old 02-04-2020, 01:21 AM
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Ouch!
Thanks for the link.
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The black T finish isnt very wear resistant IMO. Leather will wear less overall. but if you want the best of both worlds try a garret leather lined kydex holster.. I had a Pro and have a TRP both coated in black T the Pro didnt ever hit a holster but did still have some spots that showed dings ect. the TRP RMR was my hunting rig this year. I hunted for 3 weeks total not going everyday and my walks are limited to a few hundred yards usually and the gun is showing wear on the nose and the Thumb saftey IMO pretty poor wear resistance. I have carried my DW Valkyrie for 2 years almost everyday it shows no wear. The Wilson ULCC that I carry often for 4 years is wearing much better as well then the Black T and is a very similar coating and same brand of holster. If you want you gun to stay nice and not show wear Black T isnt the answer IM. The pro is a excellent gun tho better then 90%+ of the guns made today.

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Old 02-04-2020, 10:29 AM
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Got it. I have a plain Jane leather holster and just as I accept wear on my tires I'll accept it on the Pro.
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I should have monetized that video. I'd be retired by now.

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This is an older video from Rob, and it shows a Baer pistol, but it goes into better detail on how to disassemble a hard-fit 1911. As others have mentioned, please do not try to disassemble your Professional the old-fashioned way. I did it the first time I field stripped my Pro and it was a total horror show. I ended up leaving an ugly scar on the recoil spring plug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhPari7dpc&t
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Old 02-04-2020, 11:18 AM
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There you have it. Get a manicure and break out the camera.
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I should have monetized that video. I'd be retired by now.
True A.C.. I learned to breakdown my 1911's with your video. Thanks!!!
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