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Old 05-24-2019, 02:52 PM
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Used pricing? Kimber Pro Carry II ?

What are these going for used in the real world?

All black, stock, with box.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:44 PM
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Sign up on Gun Broker, look at the completed auctions. That will give you a very realistic price. Don't forget to take the shipping into account.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:55 PM
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Sign up on Gun Broker, look at the completed auctions. That will give you a very realistic price. Don't forget to take the shipping into account.
And the transfer fee.....
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:57 PM
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Low end is $450-$550... which is what it should be, since you can buy the newer two-tone models for $650-$700.

As mentioned, these are Gunbroker prices, which always has a very good selection of decent used Kimbers, and lately... at VERY decent USED prices.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:13 AM
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Looks like you're in CA? Depends if they are on the roster. 45 acp calibers are usually around 600, the 9mm models fetch over 1k.
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Old 05-25-2019, 04:24 PM
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Thanks Folks. I'm just going to hang onto it. I'd lose too much money selling it. I think I'll go ahead and get a bobtail job done on it.

I just hated from the time I bought it the way it disassembles. The idea of needing a "tool" (even if it's just a paper clip) to take apart a 1911 is just WRONG! And I didn't do my homework to know that, because it never crossed my mind.
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:22 PM
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Thanks Folks. I'm just going to hang onto it. I'd lose too much money selling it. I think I'll go ahead and get a bobtail job done on it.

I just hated from the time I bought it the way it disassembles. The idea of needing a "tool" (even if it's just a paper clip) to take apart a 1911 is just WRONG! And I didn't do my homework to know that, because it never crossed my mind.
You've always hated it, but are going to put more money into it?
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:02 PM
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Thanks Folks. I'm just going to hang onto it. I'd lose too much money selling it. I think I'll go ahead and get a bobtail job done on it.

I just hated from the time I bought it the way it disassembles. The idea of needing a "tool" (even if it's just a paper clip) to take apart a 1911 is just WRONG! And I didn't do my homework to know that, because it never crossed my mind.
Spend 50 bucks and get the Wilson flat wire kit then and forget about the tool. And changing your spring any earlier than 40k rounds. Win-win.
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Old 05-26-2019, 11:48 AM
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You've always hated it, but are going to put more money into it?
Rephrasing - I've hated that aspect of the weapon since discovering it.

I like the gun. It shoots great. The limitations on buying factory bobtails are slim in CA. If I'm going to live with that "tool" aspect of the gun (to avoid taking a bath moneywise) then I might as well toss $150 into a bobtail job and make it so likeable that I forget about the "tool" aspect.

I will also investigate what the Wilson thing referred to above is.

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Old 05-26-2019, 12:08 PM
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OK.. Just watched a video on installing the Wilson flat recoil spring kit into a Kimber.

GREAT! Why on earth didn't Kimber do that in the first place?!?!?

Needing a paper clip to take apart a 1911 is just stupid design on Kimber's part.

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Old 05-26-2019, 01:57 PM
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OK.. Just watched a video on installing the Wilson flat recoil spring kit into a Kimber.

GREAT! Why on earth didn't Kimber do that in the first place?!?!?

Needing a paper clip to take apart a 1911 is just stupid design on Kimber's part.

Thanks KC!!!
Even before I installed the Wilson flat wire kit, I didn't need the tool for disassembly/reassembly; the video of disassembly/assembly of the Pro sized gun on the Wilson youtube site with Greg Martin demonstrating the technique is easy to follow and do.
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:15 PM
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The one where you remove the slide while carefully holding the spring in place from lifting up? Yeah, I did that when I first got the gun.
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Even before I installed the Wilson flat wire kit, I didn't need the tool for disassembly/reassembly; the video of disassembly/assembly of the Pro sized gun on the Wilson youtube site with Greg Martin demonstrating the technique is easy to follow and do.
You have a link? I searched and couldn't find it.
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Another option is the Wilson Bulletproof GI Guide Rod Commander (576S) for $8.95.

If it's time for a new spring you can get a 20 lb for 4" Guns (10SC20) for $6.95. Before you say that's the wrong spring it's actually the right one. Kimber uses a 22 lb Rated Wolff Officers (3.5") Spring that's borderline on length and doesn't make it's rated lb in a 4" Guns. You could get the closed plug too, but in some guns it has to be fitted. The Commander Rod and 4" Spring will work with the stock plug.

PS The 4" Spring will have at least double the lifespan of the stock spring.

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You have a link? I searched and couldn't find it.
Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OpMPUKFA8
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:33 AM
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That must be the wrong link. That won't work with a 4" Kimber with a FLGR. The only way I know to do it tool-less is to push the guide rod all the way forward and grasp the spring so it cant go back forward and pull the guide rod out.

That's assuming you want to pull the barrel, spring and guide rod.

I've seen Heavy D (A buddy of mine that played Pro Ball) do it but I don't have enough hand strength to use my fingers as a capture tool.

That 4" uses the same 576S Short Guide Rod and 10SC20 I was suggesting. The Plug can be used too but you may have to fit it.

Now beaking down an Ultra tool-less is easier.
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That must be the wrong link. That won't work with a 4" Kimber with a FLGR. The only way I know to do it tool-less is to push the guide rod all the way forward and grasp the spring so it cant go back forward and pull the guide rod out.

That's assuming you want to pull the barrel, spring and guide rod.

I've seen Heavy D (A buddy of mine that played Pro Ball) do it but I don't have enough hand strength to use my fingers as a capture tool.

That 4" uses the same 576S Short Guide Rod and 10SC20 I was suggesting. The Plug can be used too but you may have to fit it.

Now beaking down an Ultra tool-less is easier.
That's why I wanted to see the video. There's no tipping the guide rod out of the sleeve with the Kimber.
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Can you elaborate on "no tipping the guide rod out of the sleeve" ?

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Spend 50 bucks and get the Wilson flat wire kit then and forget about the tool. And changing your spring any earlier than 40k rounds. Win-win.
$12.85 was my winning bid on Ebay!!

The kit should be here next week.

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Old 06-05-2019, 01:50 PM
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Can you elaborate on "no tipping the guide rod out of the sleeve" ?

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It won't clear unless the spring is captured on the 4" guns. Their is no clearance. The spring has to be pulled out of the sleeve (open plug) before you have enough clearance. It can be done tool-less but you have to fully collapse the spring with the guide rod and then grasp the spring holding it collapsed while you remove the guide rod. Most people won't have enough hand strength.

The gun in the video had a short guide rod so no problem.
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Old 06-09-2019, 11:43 AM
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"Spend 50 bucks and get the Wilson flat wire kit then and forget about the tool. And changing your spring any earlier than 40k rounds. Win-win. "

So, with the kit installed it is still a PITA to disassemble compared to a standard 1911. The tool is still useful to avoid chewing up your fingers trying to get that spring & guide rod in place.

Next compact I get will not be of this design.

But it does shoot great!
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spend 50 bucks and get the wilson flat wire kit then and forget about the tool. And changing your spring any earlier than 40k rounds. Win-win.
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Before I bought the wilson flatwire kit for my 4" Kimber, I cut about 1/4" off of the end of my stock full length guide rod and beveled the tip. This allowed me to pull the slide off the gun and then back the guide rod and spring out. I tried using a short commander length guide rod to accomplish the same, but (1) I didn't like how the spring wanted to kink out during disassembly and was harder to reinstall, and (2) I had problems when I attempted to use the heavier wolff recoil spring. Somehow it would peen my recoil plug, and I would have to hammer it out of the slide. I didn't have that problem with a full guide rod in place, but the short guide rod must have let the longer spring "explore the space" a little too much.

I have no problem with this disassembly method, and I actually prefer it to my standard bushing government model disassembly. See the pictures, the spring and rod stay in place while I pull the slide off, and then it is very easy to pop the slightly less-than-full-length guide rod and spring out of the slide.
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That seems like a decent idea, since I now have an extra guide rod.

Anyone got any comments pro or con?

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