Pre 1970 Gold Cup - 1911Forum
1911Forum
Advertise Here
Forum   Reviews   Rules   Legal   Site Supporters & Donations   Advertise


Go Back   1911Forum > >

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-14-2020, 10:37 AM
army_eod army_eod is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: AL
Posts: 1,166
Pre 1970 Gold Cup

I am getting the impression that the pre 1970 Cups are some of the best.

Anybody know why that is?

I am keeping my eye out for a good blued Gold Cup.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-14-2020, 12:37 PM
deserttrans deserttrans is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 217
The pre 70's series, the National Match is more collectable. Rear sights were changed around 1966 to Ellison type. Barrel bushing changed in 70 to the split collet type. I have both and quality and build are very close. I would expect a NM pre 70's, mid 60's, to bring about $500 more.
__________________
Nam 68-70 USMC Feedom Ain't Free
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-14-2020, 02:11 PM
dakota1911 dakota1911 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Great American Desert
Posts: 22,845
From a distance GCNMs looked the same from a distance for quite a while. Below a 1966 on top, a 1979 in the middle and a 1988 on the bottom.



There were differences in the guts however. Below the barrel, bushing and recoil spring plug from the 1966 on the left. The pre 70s models had a special recoil spring plug that fit into a special barrel bushing. In the middle the collet or "finger" bushing on its barrel. Colt used the collet bushing from 1970 to at least 1988 and maybe 89 on Gold Cups. On the right the barrel and bushing from a rather new 2012 GCNM.



Also the pre 70s GCNMs (and early 70s) had cutouts in the rear of the slide to lighten it. Often one hears these are not good to shoot full power 45ACP loads in as they were designed for light target loads. Below the bottoms of three slides. A 66 on the bottom a mid 70s in the middle and a 1988 on top. I put a penny in a couple of them to show the depth.

__________________
NRA Life Member
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 02-14-2020, 03:28 PM
army_eod army_eod is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: AL
Posts: 1,166
Good info, Dakota. Thanks. In some ways I think the new versions will shoot fine. I am looking at one to shoot, not collect.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-14-2020, 04:43 PM
dakota1911 dakota1911 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Great American Desert
Posts: 22,845
The new ones are very nice. Below my 2015 I bought new compared to my 1979 I bought new. I am not sure Colt is still doing it but in 2015 I got a second spring with green on the end (14lb for target loads) and two mags; one 8 round and one seven round.



Also, for what it is worth, the roll pin broke in the 79 after about 2K rounds. Something the Ellison rear sight was known for. Colt sent me a couple new ones for free and they seemed heavier than the original. A lot of folks put a sold steel pin in but I wanted to keep the pistol Colt.
__________________
NRA Life Member
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-14-2020, 06:21 PM
filson filson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: alabama
Posts: 1,208
I own six pre 70s Colt National Match pistols. In my opinion, the aesthetics are superior to that of the later Colt Gold Cup pistols. The quality of the blue finished flats, the exquisite roll marks, the overall appearance of the pistols is superior. Simply said, they are prettier pistols.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-14-2020, 07:22 PM
deserttrans deserttrans is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 217
filson is exactly right about the finish and roll marks. I forgot to mention that in above post.
__________________
Nam 68-70 USMC Feedom Ain't Free
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-14-2020, 09:01 PM
Infidel525 Infidel525 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: N.H.
Posts: 3,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by army_eod View Post
Good info, Dakota. Thanks. In some ways I think the new versions will shoot fine. I am looking at one to shoot, not collect.
Unless you find one in rough shape, or get lucky, buying new/ post pre 70 series is the cheapest route, pre 70's can get expensive.

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-14-2020, 10:31 PM
Nick Rice Nick Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Bloomfield Hills MI
Posts: 234
I've owned my 1969 Gold Cup for 2yrs now. full set paid 2k. The fit and finish is remarkable. Mine appeared unfired but you'd never know it by how smooth it operates. Its also accurate, since the first time out til now I've never had a hiccup with it. I say go for it, a true Beauty and if value means anything theres nothing to worry about there. They certainly don't make these anymore.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:21 AM.


NOTICE TO USERS OF THIS SITE: By continuing to use this site, you certify that you have read and agree to abide by the Legal Terms of Use. All information, data, text or other materials ("Content") posted to this site by any users are the sole responsibility of those users. 1911Forum does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity, or quality of such Content.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2015 1911Forum.com, LLC. All Rights Reserved