What's the difference-besides price and box? - 1911Forum
1911Forum
Advertise Here
Forum   Reviews   Rules   Legal   Site Supporters & Donations   Advertise


Go Back   1911Forum > >

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-25-2020, 07:58 PM
No Expert No Expert is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 39
What's the difference-besides price and box?

What's the difference between the two loads? Until recently the personal defense round was $0.13 cheaper per round. I can't see any difference besides the packaging. Thanks!

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...2s-p-3810.aspx


https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...t2-p-3548.aspx
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-25-2020, 08:33 PM
Striker2237 Striker2237 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 6,785
Primer and I have observed a difference in crimp/sealer in 9mm especially.
__________________
Carry gun:Wilson Carry Comp Custom .45S Pocket carry:SIG 938 Other 1911s:WC Supergrade Accucomp .38, WC BW Opticomp, WC, CQB Compact, WC CQB Professional, WC Super Sentinel, WC CQB Elite 9mm, WC EDC X9, WC X9S, Ed Brown SR, NHC Predator II Opticomp, NHC T3 Hardchrome, Kimber Ultra, STI Escort, ATI Tactical, RIA Tactical 10mm, Kimber Ultra Diamond 9mm, Detonics Combat Master MKVI, Colt Centennial .460 Roland
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-26-2020, 01:26 AM
wildphil wildphil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 873
One box is for 50 rounds and the other box is 20 rounds. But there is a 2 cent difference in price per round.
__________________
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 03-26-2020, 08:42 AM
earlwb earlwb is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,566
Well, usually they figure out a way to reduce the powder charge using cheap propellant. Load the rounds to a minimum power and velocity but still function in most guns. Then cheaper bullets, FMJ being the most common. Of course cheaper primers too. Maybe cheaper cartridge cases too.

But there can be some cases where it is the same stuff, just in a different box of course. Having a smaller box of cartridges, eg. 20 rounds, typically would cost more than a larger number in quantity. But some years ago they started using 20 or 25 round boxes for the high end cartridges to reduce its cost that the consumer sees. Not the cost per round of course.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-26-2020, 08:53 AM
Brian48 Brian48 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Moonbat city (Boston), MA
Age: 55
Posts: 2,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by No Expert View Post
What's the difference between the two loads? Until recently the personal defense round was $0.13 cheaper per round. I can't see any difference besides the packaging. Thanks!

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...2s-p-3810.aspx


https://www.targetsportsusa.com/fede...t2-p-3548.aspx
One is intended for bulk law enforcement purchase while the other is for civilian sale. I have a large supply of both. Other than a little bit more polish on the civilian loads to make them look pretty, they're both essentially the same load. About a year ago, both started using small pistol primers.

Used to order a ton of the 50ct boxes in a .45acp and 9mm from Bone Frog before Federal cracked down on this and now they only sell these boxes to law enforcement agencies.
__________________
Proud to have served.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-26-2020, 09:00 AM
tjpaxton tjpaxton is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Sunny Southern California
Posts: 1,246
They have different SkU # Numbers.

The 20 round box is basically for civilian use.

The 50 round box is designated for law enforcement. Some places won't sell you the 50 round box unless you show law enforcement identification. Some places will still sell civilians the 50 round law enforcment box without question. It's at the ammo shops discretion. But Winchester is real particular about ammo shops selling boxes marked as law enforcement ammo to civilians. If Winchester finds that out, Winchester will stop distributing ammo to that particular vendor.

But back to your question on the difference besides price.

The 50 round law enforcement box has a cannelure (hashmark type ring) around the bullet casing. This prevents bullet setback if the round is loaded and unloaded in the gun several times (as is the case sometimes law enforcement).

The powder load and projectile are the same in both boxes.

I've bought the 50 round box from Target Sports before (I'm a police officer).

It's looks like Target Sports is price gouging right now. I've paid around $25 for the 50 round box before.

I buy my 9mm Federal Premium HST 50 round boxes from Target Sports also. I've paid $17.50 previously.

Target sports has more than doubled its price for this ammo than what I previously paid.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:43 AM.


NOTICE TO USERS OF THIS SITE: By continuing to use this site, you certify that you have read and agree to abide by the Legal Terms of Use. All information, data, text or other materials ("Content") posted to this site by any users are the sole responsibility of those users. 1911Forum does not guarantee the accuracy, integrity, or quality of such Content.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2015 1911Forum.com, LLC. All Rights Reserved