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Old 03-25-2020, 06:19 PM
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Strange Find in US&S

This spring guide rod has been modified, apparently to put tension on the barrel lug. There is a captive spring acting on the small end.
Anyone ever seen anything like this before? Its making it hard to put the gun back together to show you guys!
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:29 PM
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My first response is to chuck it and put a GI guide rod in. Most improvements to the 1911 aren't.

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Old 03-25-2020, 07:48 PM
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I suppose this is meant to act as a buffer of some sort. The captive spring tensioning the buffer is fairly heavy.
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:03 PM
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Yeah, early form of shock-buff; some came with a plug with a thicker end, to help prevent the tip of the plunger from punching through at maximum compression.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:25 AM
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Here are some teaser pics of the US&S
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:03 AM
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Google: "1911 frame saver guide rod system"

A sort of solution looking for a problem. Aftermarket "doodad"!

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Old 03-26-2020, 12:00 PM
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These buffer/guide rod assemblies were relatively common before the poly shock-buff washers came into vogue. How much they actually helped was debatable of course.

Of course I assume everyone already knows these are commercial aftermarket gizmos and not USGI.
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These buffer/guide rod assemblies were relatively common before the poly shock-buff washers came into vogue. How much they actually helped was debatable of course.

Of course I assume everyone already knows these are commercial aftermarket gizmos and not USGI.
You mean that wasn't a special modification authorized by "Dugout Doug" to prevent damage to the M1911's in the Pacific because they were shooting that special .45 ACP ammunition design to be used only in the Thompson Sub Machinegun.
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These buffer/guide rod assemblies were relatively common before the poly shock-buff washers came into vogue. How much they actually helped was debatable of course.

Of course I assume everyone already knows these are commercial aftermarket gizmos and

You mean that wasn't a special modification authorized by "Dugout Doug" to prevent damage to the M1911's in the Pacific because they were shooting that special .45 ACP ammunition design to be used only in the Thompson Sub Machinegun.
Sounds plausible!
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:35 PM
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Nope!

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Sounds plausible!

WWII predates the "frame saver" by about 30 years!

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Old 03-26-2020, 03:04 PM
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You can bet the government wasn't interested in "frame savers" when the cure for a worn-out gun was to simply rebuild or replace it. We gun owners seem to be the only group who seems to fret over simply trying to make our toys last longer. I've never heard of contraptions meant to extend the life of a power saw or make a motorcycle engine go more miles. Usually when it wears out you just repair it or throw it in the junk pile and buy a new one.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:59 PM
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Perhaps it was used to absorb shock from the A Bomb blasts!
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