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Old 12-24-2019, 10:49 PM
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Oh for sure. I’ve got an M&P CORE ALS holster for my P but it’s only a level one retention holster, I want the level three holster.
I have the Safariland 6304RDS-8192 and it works with all retention on my DVC-P. I had to remove the plug from the bottom of the holster to get the SLS to engage.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:18 AM
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Old 01-02-2020, 02:27 PM
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Well, I just got a disturbing email from Buck about my order.

The short answer is that STI no longer makes the Staccato in .45 or any other caliber other than the Wonder-9 due to low sales.

I am in the hunt for a Duo in .45ACP.
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I found one on gun broker.

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Old 01-02-2020, 07:02 PM
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I found one on gun broker.
Yep. I just bought it. Thanks!
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I have a Leopold sight enroute; the pistol should arrive Monday evening, but will have to wait a few extra days for the sight due to them being so popular.

I know what holster I will be getting (the Ted Blocker 402), but need to get mag pouches. What are the 120mm (10-round .45) mags comparable to for Glocks or other fat mags? Am guessing not many mag pouch makers will have them for the STI.
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:03 PM
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Congrats on the 45 P! I have the 9 version. I should've ordered the 45 as well.

I just sent in my order for the new Staccato C2 this morning. I ordered more mags since it will be compatible with the P.

Now that I think about it, I probably should've ordered the DUO version...
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:45 PM
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Chowser,

Just a heads up. I believe the C2 has the new 120mm Carry grip and your P has a 126mm grip.

You can use the 126mm mags in the 120mm grip but not the other way around. The 126mm mags well extend an additional 3/8” out if the 120mm grip.
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Old 01-03-2020, 06:45 PM
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Yeah, I know. I ordered some 120mm mags just for the C2. The bigger mags will be shared by both.

This is my current P carry setup. I just removed the magwell. It feels better to me. When I ordered my P, I ordered an extra 126mm mag and two 140mm mags.



Not sure what mags come with the C2 but I ordered an extra 120mm, 126mm, and two 170mm mags just to round out the collection. I like having 10+ mags for each gun.
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It will be interesting to see what models are available in calibers other than Wonder-9. Their web site has not been updated, nor have I been able to glean that info from their FB page.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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It will be interesting to see what models are available in calibers other than Wonder-9. Their web site has not been updated, nor have I been able to glean that info from their FB page.
I think for the short (or mid) term it’s going to be 9mm only. Buck their LEO rep recently joined a couple forums and stated that 45 sales were almost non existent so they were pulled from the current lineup. If there’s a demand they’ll bring out other calibers. No reason to spend resources producing a gun that will not sell, especially if you can’t keep up with demand for models that are selling.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:52 AM
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It will be interesting to see what models are available in calibers other than Wonder-9. Their web site has not been updated, nor have I been able to glean that info from their FB page.
This short preview by Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance talks to some of the new changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZe6Uw2P8JI&t=88s
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:26 PM
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I think for the short (or mid) term it’s going to be 9mm only. Buck their LEO rep recently joined a couple forums and stated that 45 sales were almost non existent so they were pulled from the current lineup. If there’s a demand they’ll bring out other calibers. No reason to spend resources producing a gun that will not sell, especially if you can’t keep up with demand for models that are selling.
I don't see how there can be a demand for other calibers if they are not offered. They don't need to produce them, just offer them and do a run when enough orders are made.

But you are right about demand outstripping supply, especially after John Wick 3 came out. I imagine the higher demand than ability to supply was a big determinant in (at least temporarily) killing-off additional caliber offers.
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:37 PM
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I was lucky enough to get a private tour of their production facilities and offices about a year ago. With the internal changes they have made and a dedication to putting out top quality pistols (including bringing in Dave Dawson as exec in charge of quality) they were only putting out about 35 guns a day with a goal of hitting 50. You can only find so many qualified smiths to do the work, they closed their custom shop and pulled some of the top warranty smiths to put on the production line. I think they’re up to 65 guns a day now but compared to mass produced guns like Kimber that’s small potatoes.
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Old 01-05-2020, 10:55 AM
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The dude that works the front window at Dawson says Dave is back full time at his place.....
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Old 01-05-2020, 06:29 PM
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I was lucky enough to get a private tour of their production facilities and offices about a year ago. With the internal changes they have made and a dedication to putting out top quality pistols (including bringing in Dave Dawson as exec in charge of quality) they were only putting out about 35 guns a day with a goal of hitting 50. You can only find so many qualified smiths to do the work, they closed their custom shop and pulled some of the top warranty smiths to put on the production line. I think they’re up to 65 guns a day now but compared to mass produced guns like Kimber that’s small potatoes.
Even 35-new 1911s a day from one manufacturer sounds like a huge number to me, especially considering how the 1911 neigh-sayers keep harping on how that platform is dead. Ha!

Update: The Leopold got here today. Am hoping the "P" gets here tomorrow, which means it goes to the range Thursday.
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Well, it arrived today. The Leopold is mounted; am hoping I have the Locktite in the right locations. It goes to the range tomorrow morning. And yes, it is in God's Caliber.

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Old 01-10-2020, 04:20 PM
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Back from the range.

It shot good, although the trigger has a longer pull than what I am used to. The trigger is also too long for my short fingers, so will be checking w/ Buck on a replacement.

I sighted-in the Leopold and was surprised how much my shooting tighten-up at 25 yards. Had no problem keeping both eyes open. Am very impressed by both the pistol and sight.

It goes to the range again tomorrow and I will be letting a 1911 gunsmith/friend shoot it, also. Need to order a duty holster and mag pouches for it. I will be sticking w/ the 11-round mags for work.
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STI makes a “Gunsmith Blank” trigger that can be cut or shaped to any length or contour. If you can get Bob @ Brazos Custom (moderator here) to do the job you will be amazed. I have one of his guns and it’s the definition of a glass rod breaking.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:57 PM
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STI makes a “Gunsmith Blank” trigger that can be cut or shaped to any length or contour. If you can get Bob @ Brazos Custom (moderator here) to do the job you will be amazed. I have one of his guns and it’s the definition of a glass rod breaking.
This will be a duty weapon, so the pull needs to stay a 4.5lbs (have not determined the pull; back to see my gunsmith/friend).
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I don't see how there can be a demand for other calibers if they are not offered. They don't need to produce them, just offer them and do a run when enough orders are made.

But you are right about demand outstripping supply, especially after John Wick 3 came out. I imagine the higher demand than ability to supply was a big determinant in (at least temporarily) killing-off additional caliber offers.

John Wick's STI was 9mm, and even with his skills, he was unable to kill anyone, hence the need for a Staccato P in 45acp.
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SHOT Show is this week can’t wait to hear Safariland’s lame ass excuse as to why they haven’t released the holster yet.

I’m betting they say summer or fall 2020 now.
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SHOT Show is this week can’t wait to hear Safariland’s lame ass excuse as to why they haven’t released the holster yet.

I’m betting they say summer or fall 2020 now.
Good luck, but I think your betting timeline is far too optimistic.
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Good luck, but I think your betting timeline is far too optimistic.
Oh I know. I'm betting some of this ****ty Iraqi dinar I brought home from my last deployment.
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