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Old 01-19-2020, 12:29 PM
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Next US aircraft carrier to be named for Pearl Harbor hero Dorie Miller

It's about time we started naming these things after actual heroes instead of just presidents. I always liked the ones named after historic battles (Yorktown, Lexington), but in their absence actual medal recipients will more than suffice.

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Old 01-19-2020, 12:34 PM
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It's about time we started naming these things after actual heroes instead of just presidents. I always liked the ones named after historic battles (Yorktown, Lexington), but in their absence actual medal recipients will more than suffice.

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Totally agree. The thought of having USS Clinton, Obama, Carter churn my guts.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:50 PM
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Especially Bill Clinton. If they ever name a carrier after that anti-gun POS who failed our boys in Mogadishu and chickened out on killing bin Laden it'll be the first one that I hope sinks the moment it goes down the slipway.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:58 PM
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The Navy would never, ever name a carrier after Bill Clinton, or Barry Obama. Jimmy Carter, as everyone knows, was a Naval Academy grad and a submariner so there could be a possibility of his name showing up on a sub, but not a carrier.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:04 PM
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It's a wonderful change of pace. I've always wanted to see a class of ships named after our most famous heroes from each branch of service, Alvin York, Oliver Perry, Dan Daly, Daniel Doss....

During my last Marine active duty years, they began naming a new class of ships after WWII Marine battles (Tarawa, Saipan, Belleau Woods, Nassau...) They were designated as Tarawa-Class Landing Helicopter Assault (LHA) ships designed to transport an entire reinforced Battalion of Marines. Big ships, over 800 feet long carrying almost 1000 personnel. Okay, I'm a little prejudiced.

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Old 01-19-2020, 01:45 PM
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Especially Bill Clinton. If they ever name a carrier after that anti-gun POS who failed our boys in Mogadishu and chickened out on killing bin Laden it'll be the first one that I hope sinks the moment it goes down the slipway.
I think the Iranians will be naming one of their missile armed catamarans after Obama in appreciation for all that cash he sent them on a pallet.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:59 PM
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The Dorie Miller has a nice ring to it.
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:02 PM
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A sailor with extraordinary courage and tenacity in the face of chaos - darned appropriate IMHO.
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:14 PM
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A sailor with extraordinary courage and tenacity in the face of chaos - darned appropriate IMHO.
Absolutely!!! Great decision Navy.
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:28 PM
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Very Nice. Doris Miller will be the fourth ship of the Gerald R. Ford class. Most likely her laying down will be in '22 or '23.

Enterprise is the next ship of the class up and her laying down should be sometime this year.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:05 PM
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I've read a fair amount about Doris Miller. Yes, that was his real name. He really earned that Navy Cross, and he deserves this honor. Really glad to see it.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:10 PM
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The Dorie Miller has a nice ring to it.
It sure does.....it’s humbling to think of all the service members who had to fight, just to get into the fight.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:12 PM
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I like that just fine.

I'm a bit disappointed that the Treasury dropped the Harriet Tubman $20 bill after they realized she was a gun toting Republican.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:21 PM
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it looks like he had another ship named after before. it was a Knox class frigate which has since been scrapped. he surely deserves a new ship to be named after him

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Old 01-19-2020, 03:52 PM
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I can see it now. The USS Dolly Parton.

Truly unsinkable.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:47 PM
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I think that is a great idea.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:57 PM
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I can see it now. The USS Dolly Parton.

Truly unsinkable.
With really BIG guns 😁
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:03 PM
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I can see it now. The USS Dolly Parton.

Truly unsinkable.
With really BIG guns 😁
Some subjects deserve all the humor we can muster......this subject isn’t one of those IMO.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:47 PM
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Well deserved and about time.


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Old 01-19-2020, 07:58 PM
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Definitely against this. Aircraft carriers shouldn't be named after people. Historically, they were named after important battles in U.S. history or previous ships of the line. Dorie Miller a was a ship's steward. While awarded the Navy Cross, he probably deserved the MOH. That being said, a Navy warship has already been named for him in 1973 (FF-1091) If we are going to continue to name ships after people, then there are DOZENS of USN/USMC aviators who earned the MOH and haven't had a ship named after them. It would at least make sense considering that they were aviators and carrier-trained.
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I agree w/ MAG. They should continue to be named after battles instead of politicians and others.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:12 PM
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A well deserved honor. Bravo Zulu, Dorie Miller.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:42 PM
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The Navy would never, ever name a carrier after Bill Clinton, or Barry Obama. Jimmy Carter, as everyone knows, was a Naval Academy grad and a submariner so there could be a possibility of his name showing up on a sub, but not a carrier.

Now that we have seen - up close and personal - what a BAD president looks like,
could be lighten up on Mr. Carter?

He did, after all, order Operation Eagle Claw to rescue American hostages.
It's didn't go well, but that wasn't his fault.

Ayatollah Khomeni used the failed operation as a propaganda tool.
He claimed that the mission had been stopped by an act of God ("angels of God")
who foiled the U.S. mission in order to protect Iran and his new conservative theocratic government.



Dissing Mr. Carter just sounds like you are joining the Ayotola's claim,.

Jimmy Carter is a man of peace.

Not at all like Bill Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama.
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Now that we have seen - up close and personal - what a BAD president looks like,
could be lighten up on Mr. Carter?

He did, after all, order Operation Eagle Claw to rescue American hostages.
It's didn't go well, but that wasn't his fault.

Ayatollah Khomeni used the failed operation as a propaganda tool.
He claimed that the mission had been stopped by an act of God ("angels of God")
who foiled the U.S. mission in order to protect Iran and his new conservative theocratic government.



Dissing Mr. Carter just sounds like you are joining the Ayotola's claim,.

Jimmy Carter is a man of peace.

Not at all like Bill Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama.
Agreed Carter was not the best president. We all think the Iran thing should have been handled better but it was just after the end of Nam and everyone agrees the country was not in the mood for another war so he tried diplomacy. He was literally trying to negotiate as they were packing up the oval office.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:18 PM
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Former President Carter....while you may not have like his policies.....is a man of dedication and service to others. In his 90's he is regularly seen cooking and serving meals to the homeless and dedicated much of his time to Habitat for Humanity....again....in service to others. The man was President of the United States.

I won't hold my breath waiting to see the current occupant of the WH humble himself in service to others once he's out of office.
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