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Old 01-19-2020, 11:16 AM
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Agreed Yeti! And as you can see how I pruned your quote I have no issues with any but the “positive” inference and a crisp trigger feel. In the past a lot of confusing trigger lore has been repeated and claimed as fact...like full hammer hook contact
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Understood there! Attempted a "simple" explanation.
Negative engagement (as early GI) could also qualify in the "crisp" category and be completely safe....when done properly.
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:42 PM
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Agreed Yeti! And as you can see how I pruned your quote I have no issues with any but the “positive” inference and a crisp trigger feel. In the past a lot of confusing trigger lore has been repeated and claimed as fact...like full hammer hook contact
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In my early days of 1911 fiddlin' (pre internet, dinosaurs still about, OK early 70's) I tried to do trigger jobs that way.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:26 PM
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Bet it was a struggle back then BBBBill . You have been poking around 1911 innards a while!
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:44 PM
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A long rolling break or a very crisp break can be had with a TR sear. All else being equal, it is all about the length of the hammer hooks, length (I prefer to call it width) of the sear primary, and amount of secondary.
As a highmaster bullseye shooter I agree with KC and BBBBill. The feel of a roll is controlled by the length of the hammer hooks (with proper fitting).
I remember when Chuck posted the first picture of his CAD drawing, the light came on. I made a TR fixture and stoned a sear without a secondary and installed an old junk hammer that had long hooks on it (long roll). I then shot a few T&R targets, then stopped to pull the hammer out and stone the hooks down in .001" increments. Went down to .012" height (very crisp). Fired hundreds of BE rounds (750-800fps) and never had a double.
I like my hooks at .016" with no secondary on the sear.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:45 AM
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Bet it was a struggle back then BBBBill . You have been poking around 1911 innards a while!
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:45 AM
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BTW, why do bullseye shooters like and not other shooters?
BE is about accuracy, more than speed. It is hard to anticipate the exact moment the sear will break with a rolling trigger, than with a crisp trigger. Anticipation is the enemy of the "surprise break". Hence a rolling trigger makes it possible to smoothly squeeze the trigger as a "process", rather than break it as distinct event. Bottom line, a rolling trigger reduces the tendency to flinch and to pull the slights off the target with increasing trigger pressure. It encourages a good follow through by making it part of the process.

A short rolling trigger can be a good thing; even though it feels a bit odd. Too long a roll and fatigue will set in, long before you drop the hammer. Then you could be tempted to speed things up by mashing the trigger.
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