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Old 01-14-2020, 10:42 PM
John Joseph John Joseph is offline
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B-b-but how can you club the bad guy over the noggin with a plastic gun and expect him to go down?
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:42 PM
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Agreed. I look when I pass broken bikes on the highway. Harleys seem to account for around half of them .

But they don't seem to be nearly half of the bikes I see around.

But I'm not immune to brand blindness either. I was shocked when I had a bad synchro in a Toyota truck transmission. WHAT?? It BROKE?? -------- impossible!
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:46 PM
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I know everyone talks about G guns being reliable. I think people are brand blind.

I will use this example.....

Tesla spends more money per car in warranty repairs than any other brand. They are in last place. They are ranked 27th of 28th in reliability. Range Rover, Fiat and Chrysler are all more reliable.

But every owner loves their cars and says it’s great. They RAVE about them.

I am not saying Glock is bad....but I think G fans ignore things.
No. My Jeep is a CONSTANT demand in little fixes and even though I love it lord it annoyed me to the point I jumped ship and bought an LS430 for daily use instead. The Lexus is actually reliable for real, the Jeep blew up its reman engine (my last straw) and even though it's a way more fun brand overall owners are lying if they say its "never given them a problem".

Man you triggered me there lol!

Magazineman, I feel ya on the state of shock when a Toyota comes in with an actual problem. It just doesn't compute sometimes that something can actually really break on one that's not a maintenance item.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:05 PM
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I know everyone talks about G guns being reliable. I think people are brand blind.

I will use this example.....

Tesla spends more money per car in warranty repairs than any other brand. They are in last place. They are ranked 27th of 28th in reliability. Range Rover, Fiat and Chrysler are all more reliable.

But every owner loves their cars and says it’s great. They RAVE about them.

I am not saying Glock is bad....but I think G fans ignore things.
No. My Jeep is a CONSTANT demand in little fixes and even though I love it lord it annoyed me to the point I jumped ship and bought an LS430 for daily use instead. The Lexus is actually reliable for real, the Jeep blew up its reman engine (my last straw) and even though it's a way more fun brand overall owners are lying if they say its "never given them a problem".

Man you triggered me there lol!

Magazineman, I feel ya on the state of shock when a Toyota comes in with an actual problem. It just doesn't compute sometimes that something can actually really break on one that's not a maintenance item.
Cognitive dissonance is a hard battle....
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:01 AM
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EAA and springfield? already makes a plastic 1911
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:40 AM
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I will make a prediction that within a few years Glock will make a full size single stack .45. Think G36 on steroids. It would sell like ball bats in a riot. It will hold at least 8 rds. in the mag. You heard it here.
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:44 AM
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Saw a couple of post here where pistols are quick to point out that Glock has been mostly the same pistol since they came out. Shouldn't that be speaking volumes to the pistol? The 1911 has largely been unchanged in design (to the best of my knowledge) except for the addition of different drop safeties and some external extractor designs. The Sig 226/229 ain't much different either in that regard as best I can tell or the Berretta. Has Berretta allowed a shooter to change the front sight of a 92/M9 series yet? Ruger and SW both have had quite a few different semi auto designs over the years but I don't really see them at the gun range. Smith's M&P has only been on the market about a dozen or so years now. Glock, Sig, revolvers and some flavor of 1911 are what I see at the range or in duty holsters. Hate them, love them, they're all tools in the toolbox when it comes down to it. The 1911 is just the best of them (my opinion). Springfield has been doing a good job making both striker pistols and 1911s, I presume Glock could too if they wanted too.
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Old 01-15-2020, 03:52 AM
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I will make a prediction that within a few years Glock will make a full size single stack .45. Think G36 on steroids. It would sell like ball bats in a riot. It will hold at least 8 rds. in the mag. You heard it here. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I've been saying that for over a year now, you got a wiretap on me or something? All kidding aside, I think they could honesty sell a bunch that way, especially if the built it to compete in a single stack competition shooting match. The aftermarket would help that pistol along and with drop in parts no need to pay big $$$ to a gunsmith to improve it to your liking.
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Old 01-15-2020, 06:37 AM
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John Deer making a Corvette...Lamborghini has a company manufacturing tractors. Enzo refused to build him a Ferrari so he decided to make his own sports car. That actually worked quite well for Lamborghini.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:29 AM
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I would LOVE to see them do this.. PLEASE make one and a revolver too.

First, it would be interesting. Second, it would be hilarious watching the fan boys who have trashed metal guns be confused as to how to deal with this.
Think about that revolver thing one more time...
You talk about fugly...a revolver with a square 4 shot cylinder! In black
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:37 AM
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Everyone is voicing their opinion on a gun they have never seen. I’m pretty sure that if they came out with a quality piece and it was priced right, many here would change their opinion
Three things in that statement that make you wonder...”If”, “Quality”, “Price”
The bowels of the Gaston plastic bait factory is not about to humor us.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:48 AM
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You mean just like Harley Davidson? 😁😂😂. HD riders have memory lapses of their parts falling off or their oil leaks or the electrical problems, but they are the first to brag how dependable their big Harley is! Lol
More ignorance........stories of the 70’s and the AMF days are long gone. Modern technology has made them quite reliable. Made in America, nostalgia and pride in ownership. You’re just scared of the guy riding one........quick, hide your daughters!!
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:52 AM
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DSK pretty much nailed it earlier. If you ask any of the Klopeks working in Gaston’s factory to hand fit or polish one piece, the wheels would fall off. It’s tough enough for them to remove the “flash” from the mold.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:20 AM
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More ignorance........stories of the 70’s and the AMF days are long gone. Modern technology has made them quite reliable. Made in America, nostalgia and pride in ownership. You’re just scared of the guy riding one........quick, hide your daughters!! [IMG
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Quite contrary. I have an 06 roadking and I have a 99 1500 Kawasaki drifter. I have had one issue with my kaw, the clutch replacement at 42000 miles. My roadking well....I've lost count of issues and dollars spent on it. Admitting I have not had the oil leaks of days past. But electrical Gremlins mainly charging issues have plagued this thing since it was new. Trans had a whine in it since year #3. I've had both heads re worked, to name a few issues. So uh yeah i am speaking from experience.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:28 AM
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More ignorance........stories of the 70’s and the AMF days are long gone. Modern technology has made them quite reliable. Made in America, nostalgia and pride in ownership. You’re just scared of the guy riding one........quick, hide your daughters!! [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/rock.gif[/IMG]
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Scared of the guy riding it??? Not hardly one thing I've learned in the 20+ years I've been riding is that the brotherhood of riders is as close as military brothers and you honestly won't find nicer folks anywhere else.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:36 AM
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Shawn, I have a 2015 Limited, almost 40,000 miles, live in Michigan I had to replace 1 rear tire and a battery. The prior Harley's I have owned not even close to the reliability factor I have in this one.
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:05 AM
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Shawn, I have a 2015 Limited, almost 40,000 miles, live in Michigan I had to replace 1 rear tire and a battery. The prior Harley's I have owned not even close to the reliability factor I have in this one.
I've looked at the 2020 and 2019 left overs. I'm kinda intrigued by the miluakee 8. I've heard some good things. I saw one a couple years ago when they were brand new. But I wanted to wait until they worked any bugs out if they were there. They seem to be holding steady. Power plants from what I hear. I swear my old shovel was broke more than it ran. But I do miss that old bike. I realize that there are problems with every brand. I've never seen ANY brand dealership that didn't have a service department in back. Cars, boats, bikes, atv, lawn equipment, farm equipment. Just as I'm sure some people dislike the beloved 1911 platform. I have a nephew that's a deputy sheriff. He is not a 1911 fan. Hes a Glock and cz fan boy. But he's mid 20's. So he's "more up to date" I guess. His safe is full of Glocks and cz and sig. Couple of Dan Wesson wheel guns and several AR's. I do like picking for fun but the great thing is everyone has their preference.
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:17 AM
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Yeah I hear ya. The 8 reminds me of an old knuckle head. Rented one last year in Hawaii, felt different as far as leg position and such but liked it a lot. All of my previous shovels had all the problems you listed but as the saying goes, gotta love em to ride em. Truth be told, the 2 most reliable bikes I have had were 74' Kaw 1000 and this Limited I have now. At least I think it was a 74. Memory isn't what it used to be lol
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:18 AM
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There are a few scary Harley riders. But these days it's mostly dentists, plumbers, cellphone store managers & the soccer coach from your kid's school.

The days where you could not safely walk into the average Biker Bar are long gone.

Nowadays it's NICE bikes outside. And inside are moms in new fringe-chaps & Rusty's Badass Bunker T Shirts for sale.

Criminal bikers are few now. As Trump would say: "and everybody knows it"
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:26 AM
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Yeah I hear ya. The 8 reminds me of an old knuckle head. Rented one last year in Hawaii, felt different as far as leg position and such but liked it a lot. All of my previous shovels had all the problems you listed but as the saying goes, gotta love em to ride em. Truth be told, the 2 most reliable bikes I have had were 74' Kaw 1000 and this Limited I have now. At least I think it was a 74. Memory isn't what it used to be lol
. I think 76-77 is when the kz1000 came to be. But I have CRS. Lol. So you rented the 8? Was it torquey? Was the sound as good? Throttle response? My local dealer offered me a test ride of a pre-owned 8. I think I may take him up on it.
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:34 AM
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There are a few scary Harley riders. But these days it's mostly dentists, plumbers, cellphone store managers & the soccer coach from your kid's school.

The days where you could not safely walk into the average Biker Bar are long gone.

Nowadays it's NICE bikes outside. And inside are moms in new fringe-chaps & Rusty's Badass Bunker T Shirts for sale.

Criminal bikers are few now. As Trump would say: "and everybody knows it"
I agree. Every pencil pusher has a HD now. Affectionately known as posers or weekend warriors. It's a great relaxing feeling with your knees in the breeze. But most MC have club houses now for Hangouts. Not so much the local bars any more. The outlaws and remaining few are still on the scene here. Hell's angels, not so much. But I'm in the south east. The old fat tatted guy on the shovel or the wirey old fart on the pan is not who I worry about. In fact for the price of a beer you can hear some wild funny stories from these two! It's the crowd of meth heads or the two guys out on the corner wearing known gang colors that I'm keeping my eye on.
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Old 01-15-2020, 06:47 PM
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I just don't understand the hate for frame material that people put on Glocks. It's a tool, just like every other firearm out there. Sure it's ugly, but if it can make a nice hole in a target it works. I think the problem is that lots of people can't shoot them correctly, they don't know how to use the tool. Me? I'll use any firearm that functions properly, and is accurate. Some look better than others, some have fancier features. But at the end of the day, the tool that works is the one I'll use. I'd definitely try a Glock 1911, that would be an interesting firearm to try.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:02 PM
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Shawn check your PM
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:03 PM
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Shawn, you're absolutely correct on the kz year good call
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:03 PM
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Glock 1911

I know this sounds a bit moronic, but my feelings for the Glock swings back and forth from admiration to disdain. But my reason for not buying one is this.....I hand load ALL my range ammo, and use a LOT of lead SWC's. Glock is quite adamant that lead is a NO-NO in their barrels. I use 100% commercial ammo for carry, but 99% lead for the range. Perhaps if they made a regular cut barrel I would try one. I do think there are aftermarket barrels out there with normal cuts, but why would I want to spend another $150-$200 to buy one. All my 1911's will shoot anything I stuff in the chamber!
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