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Old 12-04-2019, 10:05 AM
Harrish Harrish is offline
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My First STI ~ DVC Limited 9mm

While I am not new to the forum, I am new to this particular section of the forum. Most of my threads have been limited to the Range Reports, Dan Wesson and Wilson Combat sections of the forum. But after spending the entire day shooting steel two weeks ago, with my fingers numb and sore from reloading 9-round 1911 9mm magazines all day, I decided it was necessary to up my mag capacity for this particular activity. I already have a couple of more days booked at the range to play and needed to figure out how to remedy this problem before my next visit. It seemed to me a 2011 made the most sense because of my familiarity with the 1911 platform. When I think of 2011s, I think STI.

Last week I found a nice deal on a very lightly used STI DVC Limited in 9mm with four mags. I picked it up two days ago and shot it yesterday for the first time. The first thing I noticed, my Wilson Combat Carry Comp, my daily carry gun and the gun I used most on my all day steel shooting day, has noticeably less recoil than the STI regardless of load used. There is no question about that. The only load where it is even close is with the Syntech 150gr Action Pistol round; which the STI absolutely loves. But it is still not truly close in terms of recoil. The Carry Comp with the same load feels like a 22lr, the STI feels like a 22mag.

I will write more about the DVC L as I spend more time with it, but overall the STI shoots VERY nicely The trigger on the STI is insane. It is somewhere between 2 lbs ~ 2.5 lbs; and it is perfect. While my DVC is not my lightest recoiling 1911 type pistol, it is definitely second among my collection, and an absolute joy to shoot. It feels great in my hand, points and handles beautifully. Next time I shoot steel, this is the gun I will use most, because loading 9 round mags all day for my Wilson Carry Comp is simply not fun! Gotta love 20+ round mags that are quick and easy to load. I suspect because of the lighter recoil, I will make quicker follow-up shots with the Carry Comp, but we will see!

Here are some groups from my outing yesterday.

When I first got to the range, I loaded up 21 rounds of Magtech 124gr and emptied the mag into the target.


My First Mag Through the STI DVC




Typical Groups Inside 10 Yards




It Absolutely LOVES the Mild Recoiling Syntech 150gr Action Pistol Rounds




A Little Distance. Those Three Hits Dead Center were My First 3 shots On The Target!




Glamour Shots!





Cannot wait to get back to the range and churn a few hundred more rounds through the DVC!

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Old 12-04-2019, 10:15 AM
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The comp on your Wilson combat assists a bit in shooting softer feeling

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Old 12-04-2019, 10:59 AM
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The comp on the Wilson is why it feels different. It redirects gasses and reduces felt recoil. To compare apples to apples you need to shoot a DVCP or Costa Carry Comp and compare that to the comped Wilson


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Old 12-04-2019, 12:18 PM
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It Absolutely LOVES the Mild Recoiling Syntech 150gr Action Pistol Rounds


Cannot wait to get back to the range and churn a few hundred more rounds through the DVC!
If your L likes the 150 Syntech, be sure and try the American Eagle 147g AE9FP. Produces outstanding accuracy in my Stac P!

BTW: Beautiful DVC Ltd! Congrats!

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Old 12-04-2019, 02:11 PM
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Great guns, so smooth and easy shooting, I had to buy both calibers. There's something different about them, the recoil is so soft and the slide feels like it's in slow motion, it just glides back and forth instead of slamming back. I've noticed the same with the 3-gun and Combat master.
Well congratulations, I'm sure you're going to love it.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:46 PM
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Harrish,

Thanks for your report. I always enjoy reading them and am impressed with your shooting.

As for sore fingers:

I have shot .45 1911's for 25 years. The mags were always easy to load so I stubbornly refused to invest in one of those stupid magazine loaders. A couple of years ago I bought a 9 mm Valkyrie Commander. (Probably about the same time you purchased yours.) The DW mags that came with it, as well as the Tripps I bought as extras, were difficult to load so I finally broke down and bought a Uplula (by Maglula) magazine loader.

I haven't looked back since. Use it for 9mm and .45. Should have done it years ago. From what I understand there are some inferior knock-offs out there so you want to make sure you get a genuine Uplula. Their website lists authorized dealers. I think I got mine through Brownells.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:45 PM
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Harrish,
I finally broke down and bought a Uplula (by Maglula) magazine loader.

I haven't looked back since. Use it for 9mm and .45. Should have done it years ago. From what I understand there are some inferior knock-offs out there so you want to make sure you get a genuine Uplula. Their website lists authorized dealers. I think I got mine through Brownells.
I wholeheartedly second the Uplula, I've seen these for years and after 40 years of loading by hand I wondered why any body would want one. Then a couple of years ago I was standing in the freezing cold and loading magazines was killing me. I got one and use it for every pistol I have. I think I did have to file a spot on it to keep it from catching on some of my STI mags though.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:26 PM
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:42 PM
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I wholeheartedly second the Uplula, I've seen these for years and after 40 years of loading by hand I wondered why any body would want one. Then a couple of years ago I was standing in the freezing cold and loading magazines was killing me. I got one and use it for every pistol I have. I think I did have to file a spot on it to keep it from catching on some of my STI mags though.
Another very satisfied Mag-lula user! Started using them a LONG TIME AGO!

A slight mod to the one I use on the STI greatly improved the performance .......
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:04 PM
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The comp on the Wilson is why it feels different. It redirects gasses and reduces felt recoil. To compare apples to apples you need to shoot a DVCP or Costa Carry Comp and compare that to the comped Wilson


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Very well aware how and why the Carry Comp shoots softer. I had hoped the light slide and light recoil spring on the DVC L would have dampened recoil a bit more than it does. My point in mentioning it, is that it is mild, but not Carry Comp mild.

Comparing the DVC and Wilson Carry Comp is indeed an apples to oranges comparison; carry gun vs a competition gun. Really no point in comparing straight across the board. I actually made that point on the Wilson forum when someone asked me to compare the two.

So all on the same page here.

I would love to shoot the DVC Professional
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:09 PM
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Harrish,

Thanks for your report. I always enjoy reading them and am impressed with your shooting.

As for sore fingers:

I have shot .45 1911's for 25 years. The mags were always easy to load so I stubbornly refused to invest in one of those stupid magazine loaders. A couple of years ago I bought a 9 mm Valkyrie Commander. (Probably about the same time you purchased yours.) The DW mags that came with it, as well as the Tripps I bought as extras, were difficult to load so I finally broke down and bought a Uplula (by Maglula) magazine loader.

I haven't looked back since. Use it for 9mm and .45. Should have done it years ago. From what I understand there are some inferior knock-offs out there so you want to make sure you get a genuine Uplula. Their website lists authorized dealers. I think I got mine through Brownells.
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I wholeheartedly second the Uplula, I've seen these for years and after 40 years of loading by hand I wondered why any body would want one. Then a couple of years ago I was standing in the freezing cold and loading magazines was killing me. I got one and use it for every pistol I have. I think I did have to file a spot on it to keep it from catching on some of my STI mags though.
b-b,
Thanks for the kind words!

b-b & markm,
I actually do have an uplula; I bought a pink one so it would not get lost. I've had it for 15 years or so. After 7 hours of shooting steel, though I used my uplula 90% of the time, my fingers were still numb and sore that day, and the next, and the one after that. I put 1060 rounds through the Carry Comp alone that day. That is over 110 reloaded mags just with that gun! Plus I shot other guns!!! I must have loaded over 200 mags that day! Shot over 2000 rounds!

The upload does stick a bit on my STI mags, especially with the Syntech ammo. But those mags are a breeze to load by hand compared to the single stock 1911 mags!

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Old 12-05-2019, 01:43 PM
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Harrish,

Wow, 7 hours and 200 mags. I get it now. Hey, anything worth doing is worth overdoing! Keep up the good work.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread. Carry on.

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Old 12-05-2019, 02:28 PM
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Harrish,

Wow, 7 hours and 200 mags. I get it now. Hey, anything worth doing is worth overdoing! Keep up the good work.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread. Carry on.

b-b
If that is the worst thing that happens here, everything will be fine

Here is my write up from the 7 hour day shooting steel and loading 200 mags:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=1004204
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:23 PM
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Another very satisfied Mag-lula user! Started using them a LONG TIME AGO!

A slight mod to the one I use on the STI greatly improved the performance .......
Ahhhh! Thanks for the tip. Love my mag-lula. But it hangs up on my Atlas mags. Just got a Staccato P, and bought 3 extra mags, I suspect it will do the same. Time to use the Dremel.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:14 PM
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Iím a STI collector.... I just picked up a DVC-Limited Island Barrel Blackout version. The DVC-Lís sure are sweet shooters.

Not sure where you are located but if youíre ever near Houston let me know and Iíll let you shoot some comped 2011ís to see how they compare to your WC carry comp.
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:36 PM
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Iím a STI collector.... I just picked up a DVC-Limited Island Barrel Blackout version. The DVC-Lís sure are sweet shooters.

Not sure where you are located but if youíre ever near Houston let me know and Iíll let you shoot some comped 2011ís to see how they compare to your WC carry comp.
I'm in South Florida, but if I make it to Houston I would love to take you up on that offer!
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:33 PM
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:14 AM
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Hi congrats on the new STI. Looks sweet. I just got my first and am waiting on the delivery to my FFL. Basically looks to be the exact one you got but in the blackout version. Also 9mm. Steel Challenge is what I hope to use it for mainly. Excited to get some rounds down range.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:13 AM
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Looks killer in all Black.

I'm pretty sure this won't be my last STI 2011. I know they are discontinuing the DVC, and going forward with the Staccato. Very curious to see how things develop. I suspect my next STI will have a built in comp like the Professional. It may just wind up being a DVC Professional altogether anyway
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Old 12-10-2019, 11:15 AM
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I made it out for a second range trip with the DVC L. I have run 8 different brands/types of 9mm ammo through it so far. I found the load this gun LOVES. Not only does my DVC L shoot the Magtech 124gr accurately, the way it handles the recoil and sets me up for the next shot is just perfect. I couldn't ask for a better pairing of gun and ammo.

I was felling a little frisky yesterday and shot all my groups at 10 yards


My STI DVC L handles the Magtech 124gr FMJ Very Nicely






I was very happy to see my DVC L likes my current self-defense load too...Federal Syntech 138gr Defense
I rattled myself after the first 4 shots, I wish I could just shut my mind off whenever I want to!


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Old 12-11-2019, 06:48 AM
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STI 2011 guns....

I am only interested in shooting accurate guns.....so I always test my guns for accuracy with various ammo and bullets. I set the target out at roughly 25 yards, and use a sandbag rest to test the ammo for accuracy and functional reliability in that gun. Once I have found accurate ammo, I use that for my range plinking and local pistol shooting matches...Ö

Since I build my own STI 2011 guns, I purchase good barrels, and get very good accuracy results. From a rest at 25 yards and using iron sights, my ammo will usually allow 2" or slightly less 5-shot groups measured center to center for the five shots.... this is OK for action pistol sports, but not good enough for precision pistol sports where 50 yard targets are used....
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