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Old 08-21-2018, 02:17 PM
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The Vigil ~ Range Report ~ The Entry-Level 1911 from Dan Wesson

This is a shortened version of my full review. To see the full review in the Dan Wesson section of this forum, click here:
https://forums.1911forum.com/showthr...1#post12595068


I was given the opportunity to spend some time with a brand new Vigil Commander in 9mm; Dan Wesson’s new entry level 1911 pistol. The Vigil is currently available in both 9mm and 45acp in four configurations; full-size Government with a 5” barrel, a full-size Government with a 5” Threaded Barrel, a Commander with a 4.25” barrel, and a CCO (the Commander 4.25” barrel on a shorter Officers Frame). All Vigil pistols have an aluminum frame with a hard black anodized finish, and a stainless steel slide finished with Dan Wesson’s incredibly tough and durable Duty Finish (Black Nitride).


The new Vigil Commander in 9mm Before Heading to the Firing Line





Below is a picture of the 350 rounds of 9mm ammo I brought with me to run through the Vigil. A reasonable selection of different manufacturers, bullet types and weights. I Included in my selection one of my favorite 9mm carry loads, 147gr Federal HST. I also brought along my favorite 1911 range magazine for the test; a Wilson Combat 10 round ETS magazine. I have fired thousands of rounds through this particular magazine without a hitch and wanted to use it for this test.


The 350 rounds of 9mm for this review




A quick note about the groups below. While it may appear the groups below are consistently lower than the bullseye, that was entirely the result of the targets hanging higher than normal. My favorite local indoor range in South Florida, and possibly the best gun store ever, Delray Shooting Center, just renovated their range and the cables the targets ride on were tighter than they were before the renovation. As a result, the targets hung a bit higher than usual. For me to aim at the now higher bullseyes on my small homemade targets felt unnatural for me. So I simply let the bullseye sit above the front sight higher than usual so I could aim more naturally, and not at a consistent upward angle for 350 rounds! Going forward I am going to have to use targets that hang lower on the cable. Until, of course, the cables start sagging again

As I stood on the firing line and loaded up the first magazine for the Vigil, I was wondering to myself if it was going to feel like I was shooting my Valkyrie. As I slowly shot my way through the first magazine of American Eagle 124gr FMJ, I was nodding my head smiling; I could swear I had my Valkyrie in my hand. Shooting the Vigil felt exactly the same as my mind-blowingly soft shooting and considerably more expensive Valkyrie.


Here is the first mag I put through the Vigil, and the first 9 rounds I shot in a week




I ran 100 rounds of the American Eagle 124 gr ammo through the Vigil without incident. It functioned flawlessly. When I finished the first 100 rounds, I put a cloth patch on the tip of my pinky and stuck it inside the ejection port, wiped down the feed ramp and whatever else I could reach. I then closed the slide, put a drop of FP10 oil on the hood of the barrel, worked the slide a half dozen times and moved onto the brown box Remington UMC 115gr ammo.


Here is the first magazine I fired of the 100 rounds of Remington UMC 115 gr




As I worked my way through the 100 rounds of Remington UMC 115gr, I decided to see if the Vigil handled as well as my Valkyrie when shooting Rapid-Fire Drills. Which means I fire a round, let the front sight drop back down on the target and quickly pull the trigger again, then repeat until empty. It usually takes me just under 4 seconds to do this with a fully loaded 9 round mag in my Valkyrie, and the result is always about a 3" group. The Vigil performed identical to my Valkyrie during Rapid-Fire drills. The Vigil is such a soft shooting gun that the sights don’t come off target very much at all after firing a round. Which is exactly what you want in a defensive firearm; the ability to put as many rounds on your target as quickly and as accurately as possible. I find my polymer double and single stack 9mm carry guns like my Glock 19, tend to bounce around quite a bit after each shot because of the recoil. I couldn’t possibly put 9 rounds in a 3” group in under 4 seconds with any of them. Though my Glock 19 is only a few ounces lighter than the Vigil, it exhibits a lot more recoil and the trigger takes forever to reset. Both factors have a huge impact on the size of my rapid-fire groups. The lack of recoil exhibited by the Vigil and its quick resetting trigger makes it much easier for the shooter to put fast and accurate fire on a target. Any gun with characteristics that enable shooters to perform better, says a lot about the gun. The soft shooting Vigil, with its excellent trigger is such a gun.


Slow-Aimed Fire vs Rapid-Fire with the Vigil




I have said this before in my reviews of the Valkyrie Commander and CCO, I don’t know what Dan Wesson does to these lightweight aluminum framed guns, but all my aluminum framed Dan Wesson 1911 pistols shoot softer than my ALL STEEL 9mm Government sized 1911 Colts, Kimbers, and Springfields. Not just a little softer either, I mean considerably softer shooting. It defies logic, physics, and I can’t explain it. I have tried to swap out parts on my Colts and Kimbers to get them to shoot as soft as my aluminum framed Dan Wesson Commanders, all to no avail. While the recoil has softened up a little bit by installing different recoil springs and mainsprings, and switching to a non-radiused Firing Pin Stop, they still don’t shoot as soft as the aluminum framed Vigil. After many months of trying to figure this out, I just consider this phenomena one of the mysteries of the universe. I don’t fight it anymore, I just accept it.

In the end all of the good attributes exhibited by the Vigil are meaningless if it isn’t reliable with modern Hollow Point ammo. Depending on length of the barrel of my carry gun I either carry Federal HST 124gr or 147gr. Though I usually carry 124gr HST in 4.25” barrels or shorter, I opted to run the 147 gr HST for this test because I wanted to include a 147gr bullet in my selection. So I ran 50 rounds of Federal HST 147gr through the Vigil. The HST also ran flawlessly and without a hiccup.

One of the things I love about the Vigil, even when you are running ammo that you know is on the hotter side, like the Federal HST and the Winchester NATO 124gr, you can’t tell it is hotter when shooting it through the Vigil. The Vigil exhibits the same soft recoil as it does with the milder loads. I know when I switch from shooting the mild Remington UMC 115gr to the hotter Federal HST 147gr in my Glock 19, it is VERY clear a switch in ammo has just taken place. Make the same switch with the Vigil, and it is just not noticeable.


Here are the first 9 rounds of Federal HST 147gr ammo I fired




After shooting 345 rounds through the Vigil without a single incident, I closed my range session the way I always do. I loaded my last 5 rounds and moved the target as far down range as possible at my local indoor range; which is just over 18 yards. The group I fired is pictured below. I was more than happy with the results; I will take a 2” five shot group at 18 yards all day long and on Sundays. As you can see I ran out of my usual paper targets by this point of the extensive range session and was using whatever I could find laying around to shoot at.


The Vigil at Distance




If you have read any of my past reviews of Dan Wesson 1911 pistols, you already know I am impressed with them. I’m even more impressed with the Vigil given its considerably lower price point. If I didn't already own three Valkyries, I would immediately buy a 9mm Vigil Commander and a 9mm Vigil CCO and not think twice about the Valkyrie. It is basically the same exact gun with a few minor differences which are mostly cosmetic.

In my mind if you take any shooter and let them try any of the $800 to $900 entry-level Colts, Kimbers, Springfields, and then let them try a comparable sized Vigil, which is only $100 to $200 more expensive, I’m certain 100% would choose the Vigil. The Vigil is just that much better in every respect and represents the greatest bargain in the 1911 world period. It actually belongs rubbing shoulders with the more expensive semi-custom brands then the assembly line production guns from Colt, Kimber and Springfield. Once word gets out, and more people understand the incredible value the Vigil represents, the likes of Colt, Kimber and Springfield should be concerned.


The Vigil Commander 9mm after 350 Flawless Rounds Fired

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Old 08-21-2018, 03:13 PM
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Thanks for the range report. Makes me sure there will be a Virgil in my future. I did not know all the Virgils, even the full size have aluminum alloy frames. May have to consider a full size in 9MM.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:37 PM
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Thanks for the range report. Makes me sure there will be a Virgil in my future. I did not know all the Virgils, even the full size have aluminum alloy frames. May have to consider a full size in 9MM.
I don't have a Government sized gun with a Lightweight frame. I kind of want one now. LOL. The Vigil is the only game in town that I can think of for a Lightweight Government.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:50 PM
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I don't have a Government sized gun with a Lightweight frame. I kind of want one now. LOL. The Vigil is the only game in town that I can think of for a Lightweight Government.
Colt, Springfield and S&W have made full size 1911s' in the pass, but I think only in .45ACP, but I might be wrong.
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Old 08-22-2018, 05:26 PM
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Colt, Springfield and S&W have made full size 1911s' in the pass, but I think only in .45ACP, but I might be wrong.
I know Colt did for sure. There are always a few on Gunbroker. Not sure about the other two. But I was talking about if you were looking to buy a new Lightweight Government, DW seems to be the only game in town. Unless you go custom.
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Old 08-22-2018, 06:19 PM
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Good shooting man, I have handled and shot this model and like you said it acts just like a normal DW gun for cheaper. I would for sure get one if I needed another gun, I may still get one to use as a testbed for optics though.
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:07 AM
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Great write up! I'm hankering for LW Government, and these Vigils check all the boxes!!
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:49 PM
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Great write up! I'm hankering for LW Government, and these Vigils check all the boxes!!
As far as I'm aware, the 5" Vigil is the only production LW Government pistol currently available in 9mm or 45acp. Lots of LW option in the Commander or Officer size. For a new LW Gov't pistol DW is the only game in town.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:59 PM
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Great review, very-very helpful to me since I'm new to 1911's.
Question here: What Wilson Combat magazines will fit Valkyrie, 45 ACP?
I just ordered a Valkyrie and would like to use best magazine available.

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Old 07-23-2019, 07:42 PM
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That's a pretty pistol, thanks for sharing.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:42 PM
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Great shooting!

Well done write up.

I have a new DW Valor Commander .45 that is begging for some range time. I’ve only shot a few rounds through it but dan say I’m impressed.

They make a nice gun.
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Old 09-06-2019, 01:51 PM
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Coming back to your report, it doesn't seem that any one brand of ammo is better than the others? Seems to shoot all well, that's a great feature.
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:59 PM
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Just saw this while searching Dan Wesson posts as I’m
a proud ECO owner... fantastic write up !!

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Old 11-28-2019, 12:58 PM
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Good review, but referring to any DW 1911 as “entry level” is kind of like calling A Springfield Mil Spec .45 “entry level.” What’s so “entry level” about it? Banish such jargon...it’s so “entry level.”
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Old 11-28-2019, 03:53 PM
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We just got a sample Vigil Govt. Model in 9mm from the DW folks. Going to try it for IDPA in the upcoming season. Figure the lighter weight with longer sight radius may help our scores; then again, maybe not.
Shot CCOs (GI, Wilson, Colt, and DW) in ESP the last couple of years and it was great to compete with what you carry. The 4.25" slide/bbl disallows the little guns from the CCP class, which is truly where they belong, but we don't make the rules. Regardless the DW CCOs are exemplary little pistols.

One guys impressions at the link below.


http://www.thegunmag.com/dan-wessons...sonable-price/
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Old 11-28-2019, 08:46 PM
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Good review, but referring to any DW 1911 as “entry level” is kind of like calling A Springfield Mil Spec .45 “entry level.” What’s so “entry level” about it? Banish such jargon...it’s so “entry level.”
It's unclear what offends you here. Check DW prices -- the Vigil line is their least expensive, hence entry level. Same, too, for the Springfield Mil Spec.

That's what entry level means: the lowest cost to "gain entry"; in this case, to owning a DW.
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:34 AM
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We just got a sample Vigil Govt. Model in 9mm from the DW folks. Going to try it for IDPA in the upcoming season. Figure the lighter weight with longer sight radius may help our scores; then again, maybe not.
Shot CCOs (GI, Wilson, Colt, and DW) in ESP the last couple of years and it was great to compete with what you carry. The 4.25" slide/bbl disallows the little guns from the CCP class, which is truly where they belong, but we don't make the rules. Regardless the DW CCOs are exemplary little pistols.

One guys impressions at the link below.


http://www.thegunmag.com/dan-wessons...sonable-price/

I enjoyed the review. Thanks for linking it.
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great write up as always harrish
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Old 11-29-2019, 11:02 AM
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great write up as always harrish
He does a great job on his reviews & range reports doesn't he ?

Good stuff.....but I have to admit...he helps the "I want one" meter peg out.

A well made, accurate and attractive gun tends to do that. Pistol, revolver, rifle or scattergun.
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As far as I'm aware, the 5" Vigil is the only production LW Government pistol currently available in 9mm or 45acp. Lots of LW option in the Commander or Officer size. For a new LW Gov't pistol DW is the only game in town.
I have a full size LW Kimber in .45 but I don't know the model or how old it is. I bought it used at a stupid price a few yrs ago. Still haven't shot it....LOLOL!!
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Old 11-29-2019, 02:57 PM
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It's unclear what offends you here. Check DW prices -- the Vigil line is their least expensive, hence entry level. Same, too, for the Springfield Mil Spec.

That's what entry level means: the lowest cost to "gain entry"; in this case, to owning a DW.
Exactly. A Porsche Cayman is the entry-level Porsche. Entry-Level doesn't mean it should cost less than a 1972 Dodge Dart.
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Old 11-29-2019, 02:59 PM
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He does a great job on his reviews & range reports doesn't he ?

Good stuff.....but I have to admit...he helps the "I want one" meter peg out.

A well made, accurate and attractive gun tends to do that. Pistol, revolver, rifle or scattergun.
LOL. Thanks for the kind words!
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