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Old 03-30-2020, 08:14 PM
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1911 Government Barrel Blued

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Does anyone know where I could find a good blued 1911 government barrel that is new? I just don’t care for the looks of the SS. I would be dropping it in the new Colt Classic 1911.

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Old 03-30-2020, 08:16 PM
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:19 PM
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:28 PM
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Those barrels are unfinished and not blued correct?

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Old 03-30-2020, 11:00 PM
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Just FYI a standard blued Colt barrel will have a wide GI-spec chamber hood. The Colt O1911C Classic uses a stainless barrel with a narrow Gold Cup-style hood. If you get a blued barrel you will most likely have to cut the hood to fit the narrower notch in the slide.

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Old 03-31-2020, 07:48 AM
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you could send just your barrel in to be IonBonded?
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:11 AM
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you could send just your barrel in to be IonBonded?
Above is the smart answer.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:16 AM
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Kart xact fit are easy to install with their tool set. Also, fusion is making a carbon steel barrel as well. Both come in the white though.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:46 AM
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you could send just your barrel in to be IonBonded?
Agree with joebuck, best answer. The IonBond will show very little wear over time while the blue will wear rather quickly.
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:07 AM
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Fusion Firearms makes what they call a WW1/WW2 replacement barrel that is blued.
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Old 03-31-2020, 09:50 PM
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Agree with joebuck, best answer. The IonBond will show very little wear over time while the blue will wear rather quickly.

I did this with the barrel in my O1991. I sent it to evolution armory and it turned out great.
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:45 AM
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$35 from Evolution Armory!
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:36 PM
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Considering the Fusion Firearms WW1 - WWII blued barrel mentioned above; does anyone know the quality of this barrel, any experience with it? drop in or must it be fitted?

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Old 04-01-2020, 01:36 PM
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As I said earlier, if it goes in a Colt O1911C Classic the barrel hood will need to be cut or filed down to fit the slide. Aside from that however it's advertised as drop-in.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:10 PM
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Ford Puller do you have a picture? I’d love to see it.

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Old 04-01-2020, 08:38 PM
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This is a fool's errand. The barrels are left 'in the white' because they will be scratched during operation and any bluing or coating will be made to look crummy with just a few rounds. Taking the original fitted barrel out of a Colt and putting in a different barrel is a separate action that is not something that most anybody would recommend. This is like taking the original 289 engine out of a Cobra and putting in a six-cylinder because you didn't like the color of the V8. A nice pistol will become junk.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:21 PM
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As I said earlier, if it goes in a Colt O1911C Classic the barrel hood will need to be cut or filed down to fit the slide. Aside from that however it's advertised as drop-in.
DSK - Yep, you are correct. I was thinking on the larger opening on earlier pistols. Good photo BTW- I saved it!
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Old 04-02-2020, 08:16 AM
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I think the best way is Ionbond the original barrel. From my research it holds up very well and looks good. I guess it would be a polished black if I’m looking for the WW1 look.

Thanks for mentioning Ionbond!
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Old 04-02-2020, 10:25 AM
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I don't blame you for disliking the look of the all-stainless barrel in the blued Classic. When Colt first putting stainless barrels in the O1991 series 20 years ago I was put off by them, and never bought one. A blued 1911 needs a blued barrel, dammit, just as a blued barrel doesn't belong in a stainless pistol. Unfortunately Colt has been consolidating their models to use as many common parts as possible, which in my belief is why we got the Classic to begin with and why they discontinued the Series 70 and O1991.
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:56 PM
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I don't blame you for disliking the look of the all-stainless barrel in the blued Classic. When Colt first putting stainless barrels in the O1991 series 20 years ago I was put off by them, and never bought one. A blued 1911 needs a blued barrel, dammit, just as a blued barrel doesn't belong in a stainless pistol. Unfortunately Colt has been consolidating their models to use as many common parts as possible, which in my belief is why we got the Classic to begin with and why they discontinued the Series 70 and O1991.
Good to read I am not the only person feeling this way. My late issues Repro 70, 73B serial number, is black/blued with stainless barrel, like the pistol but not so much it's barrel.
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Old 04-02-2020, 02:42 PM
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gc45 - It's odd that your Repro 70 has the stainless barrel. I've purchased two of the Series 70 Repros within the last year (both 73Bs) and they both have the blued barrels.
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Old 04-02-2020, 04:55 PM
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Like I said... Colt often uses whatever parts they have on hand, especially on a model that's being discontinued anyway.
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:39 PM
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Ford Puller do you have a picture? Id love to see it.

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I can get'em for you in a bit. I don't have imjur anymore, but I could email'em to ya.
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Old 04-05-2020, 12:09 AM
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gc45 - It's odd that your Repro 70 has the stainless barrel. I've purchased two of the Series 70 Repros within the last year (both 73Bs) and they both have the blued barrels.
Rooney - I almost did not buy the Repro when seeing the barrel, however I felt they would be gone soon and every one I saw locally had the stainless barrel. The price was very good as well.. It is a great pistol, pretty accurate at 20yds plus shooting with flawless function but the barrel is a turn off for me...Many of them do have blued barrels though...Can SS be ION Bond finished, anyone?
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Old 04-05-2020, 02:09 AM
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SS is no problem with IonBond I've read ... thinking the salt spray test was 55hrs on SS and 48 on carbon
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