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Old 04-18-2020, 09:28 PM
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Some more observations today

I learned that the local Cabelas stores have re-opened in the past week or so so I decided to go up and take a look this morning. I won't bore you with the steps they're taking to keep our governut happy so I'll cut right to the chase. There was a long line to the gun counters, with everyone of course having to keep a large gap between each other. The ammo shelves were basically empty. What I learned is, those of you who choose to keep a .32 S&W Long, .25ACP, .22 WMR, .44-40, or even 8mm Nambu as your SHTF carry gun are smarter than most. Same if your rifle is a 6.5 Creedmoor or .270 Winchester. There was still plenty of ammo for you to be had. Those of us dumb enough to keep a 9mm, .45ACP, .38 Special or 5.56mm, or heck even a lowly .22LR as our SHTF gun are still out of luck. At least in the latter case though you could still buy some .22 Shorts and hand-cycle them if you needed to. There were plenty of PMags for sale, likely because there was nothing to stuff in them. Almost no AR accessories or cleaning gear though. Those shelves were nearly stripped as well.

It's looking like I need to hit Gunbroker and find myself an early 1900s .32 Iver Johnson revolver or a Mauser C.96 in .30 Luger and keep it handy for when society finally breaks down. That way I'll still be able to find ammo while everyone else is killing each other just to strip all the 9mm ammo they can find off the bodies.
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Old 04-18-2020, 09:31 PM
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I learned that the local Cabelas stores have re-opened in the past week or so so I decided to go up and take a look this morning. I won't bore you with the steps they're taking to keep our governut happy so I'll cut right to the chase. There was a long line to the gun counters, with everyone of course having to keep a large gap between each other. The ammo shelves were basically empty. What I learned is, those of you who choose to keep a .32 S&W Long, .25ACP, .22 WMR, .44-40, or even 8mm Nambu as your SHTF carry gun are smarter than most. Same if your rifle is a 6.5 Creedmoor or .270 Winchester. There was still plenty of ammo for you to be had. Those of us dumb enough to keep a 9mm, .45ACP, .38 Special or 5.56mm, or heck even a lowly .22LR as our SHTF gun are still out of luck. At least in the latter case though you could still buy some .22 Shorts and hand-cycle them if you needed to. There were plenty of PMags for sale, likely because there was nothing to stuff in them. Almost no AR accessories or cleaning gear though. Those shelves were nearly stripped as well.

It's looking like I need to hit Gunbroker and find myself an early 1900s .32 Iver Johnson revolver or a Mauser C.96 in .30 Luger and keep it handy for when society finally breaks down. That way I'll still be able to find ammo while everyone else is killing each other just to strip all the 9mm ammo they can find off the bodies.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:23 PM
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Those of us dumb enough to keep a 9mm, .45ACP, .38 Special or 5.56mm, or heck even a lowly .22LR as our SHTF gun are still out of luck. .
Not if we were smart enough to stock up after Sandy Hook....
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:28 PM
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Our local Cabella's is the same as yours, DSK.

Even the reloading section was mostly bare.
Except that I found a small box of 1000 9mm 124gr Berry's on the bottom shelf.

8 cents a round!
Couldn't pass that one up.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:31 PM
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Cabela's in Kearney never closed but the hours were changed. hours are now 10:00 to 6:00 and seniors get an extra hour in the morning. they are limiting people to 50 at a time.

I managed to get a couple of boxes of 45 hardball but about everything else is gone. no AR's or shotguns
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:32 PM
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Mine has literally nothing aside from $50+ boxes of rifle ammo in "common" calibers and super magnum rifle rounds and matching handgun rounds in bear load form. Zero .40/10mm .44 mag .38/.357 or .357 sig or anything that is a somewhat common caliber at all
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:51 PM
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Be patient, people. Toilet paper is back on the shelves (albeit, one pack per customer per visit), ammo will return as well. It not like Coronavirus evaporates brass and lead...it just evaporates common sense.

Enjoy the cheap gas while ammo is scarce and expensive.
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:46 AM
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Ammunition needs....

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Those of us dumb enough to keep a 9mm, .45ACP, .38 Special or 5.56mm, or heck even a lowly .22LR as our SHTF gun are still out of luck.
I can't remember the last time I purchased factory ammunition for any of my firearms. This might be a good time to consider reloading your own ammo like I have been doing for over 35+ years. As long as you keep a good supply of reloading components, you should never run out.....

I was a little late in getting primers about a month ago, but now I am back up to having 18K primers for various calibers, but since I shoot a 9mm in different types of competitive shooting, I have about 10K small pistol primers on hand.

When my D1050 is set up with 100 primers in the tube, brass in the case feeder, and bullets in the bullet tray, I can reload 100 rounds in about 8 minutes..... I have fine tuned my powder and bullet combinations, and I believe my reloads will shoot better than most any factory ammo......
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Old 04-19-2020, 06:15 AM
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It's a shame there are no modern handguns available in the U.S chambered in 7.62x25 Tokarev.
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:33 AM
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:43 AM
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The one thing I noticed was the scarcity of various calibers followed logical order. First was 9mm and 556/223, then 45, etc.

I was able to order 40sw in the early days and got almost free shipping from Bass Pro. My earlier 556 order was canceled twice before I gave up on it.

I see the logic in having less common/popular calibers. Just snagged a 357sig barrel for my M&p for future situations like this.

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Old 04-19-2020, 08:13 AM
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Hopknockious- Wouldn't being prepared be simplified by purchasing a case or__ of ammo for hard times vs an oddball barrel to install and then having look for ammo in hard times? Seems you could set up a reserve ammo stash with what your barrel and fitting cost. All you are saving with the barrel option, is a little closet space.
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Old 04-19-2020, 08:16 AM
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I'm sure ammo will come back but more expensive, example. I reload .40 and .45 but do not bother with 9mm not cost effective. So 3 weeks ago the only 9mm range ammo available at by usual go to Natchez, was a 1000ct Blazer loose box for $167, not bad. Yesterday I ordered some self defense and snake shot and the same 1000ct box was $249.
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Old 04-19-2020, 09:57 AM
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Hopknockious- Wouldn't being prepared be simplified by purchasing a case or__ of ammo for hard times vs an oddball barrel to install and then having look for ammo in hard times? Seems you could set up a reserve ammo stash with what your barrel and fitting cost. All you are saving with the barrel option, is a little closet space.
Fair points all around. I have other options for pistol calibers. The price of the 40sw was a good deal and I was just waiting to purchase.

I usually have a good amount on hand, but Iím not ready to reload a bunch. Clearly I have some gaps in my plan. Iím splitting my concerns between having to find ammo in stock but also having options for calibers over the long term.
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Old 04-19-2020, 10:48 AM
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Nice to know so that I don't bother to travel to Cabelas or Bass Pro. But I had stocked up long before the virus pandemic. Thus it doesn't bother me at all. I have a good supply on hand already. My survivalist instinct had been working for years before now.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:15 AM
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When this ammo crisis first hit, as mentioned, all the popular calibers were wiped out. The only one I found available was some 10mm FMJ for range use. Now, even 10mm is wiped out in both FMJ and JHP.

About a month ago, I went to Cabela's with the little lady and we had a look around. As usual, it was busy there, but they still had plenty of ammo on the shelves. I had $200 in gift cards and was going to buy some 22MAG ammo, but decided to get us some new carry range bags...just haven't been able to use them yet.

I've been able to snag a few cases of 12 gauge in both 00 buck and slugs at a reasonable price online.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:27 AM
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So as I read it...........

Basically, there's an argument to be made to have a gun in EVERY SINGLE CALIBER there is because you NEVER know what is going to be left once you run out of whatever supply you started with (regardless of how much).

I noticed this in reloading supplies.

I had NO PROBLEM finding 44MAG bullets.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:52 AM
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I was at a Sportsman's Warehouse last weekend. Place was a ghost town. Guns out the wazzoo and tons of ammo.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:53 AM
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My SHTF pistols are 9mm, 38 Specials, and .45 ACP. I have at least 20,000 rounds for them on hand. I also keep a 9mm carbine and an AK47 with 1000 rounds. Never wait for the emergency to happen to start your preparations......
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:40 PM
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Just curious as to what people feel are the scenarios and time line in which they would use up 1000 or more rounds of ammo. In a Zombie Apocalypse I can see spraying and praying with all the ammo you've got. But I don't see that as likely if US military were occupying a city, or if a SWAT team came knocking on your door. Looking at resistance movements such as was the case in Nazi occupied Europe, those rarely if ever (pre-D Day) involved running battles with high volumes of ammo being used. They were usually small group actions or individual actions that were hit and run. And in those cases, they replenished their weapons and ammo from their victims.

In a SHTF situation, if you shelter at home, your ammo needs will probably involve small defensive actions, not large gun battles. And if you head out into the wilderness, you'll have a hard time lugging thousands of rounds with you...unless it has be pre-deposited in various stashes.

I've got about 200-250 or so rounds for each of my three weapons groups...that might go fast at the range, but I think its enough for local trouble...at least until the virus makes going to the gun store easy again. That's not to say I'm not planning to store some in a second location for if needed.

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Old 04-19-2020, 04:20 PM
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I've reloaded my own 9mm and .380 for about 10 years now. I remembered how reloading supplies dried up after Obama got elected. Knowing that another POTUS election was coming up, I'm now sitting on enough powder, primers and bullets to reload about 10K 9mm rounds.
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<snip>I have at least 20,000 rounds for them on hand.</snip>
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:24 PM
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When my D1050 is set up with 100 primers in the tube, brass in the case feeder, and bullets in the bullet tray, I can reload 100 rounds in about 8 minutes..... I have fine tuned my powder and bullet combinations, and I believe my reloads will shoot better than most any factory ammo......
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I will just say this.

Here in the one stoplight county in the Blue ridge mountains of Virginia that I live in. We are not sweating it. Just sayin
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