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Old 05-17-2017, 04:26 PM
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Wanted: Time travel machine

Recovering from surgery with free (rare) time to spend on the really important matters of life. At the top of the "important matters" list is research on the cool stuff in my own museum of military history.

Going through my reference books, I came across a catalog, "Golden State Arms-WORLD'S GUNS" dated 1957, 288 pages of firearms, edged weapons & armor and all with crazy-low prices.

Examples: "Rare U.S. model 1911 auto pistol manufactured at Springfield Arsenal. 70% original finish." Price, $65.00 !!

"Norwegian copy of Colt model 1911. All numbers match. 95% of original finish remains." Price, $50.00 !!

There were 2 each M1911A1's, both Union Switch & Signal, "very good condition" Prices, $49.95 and $59.50 !!

"Colt auto pistol model 1911A1, .38 caliber Super. 85% original finish. Low serial number, 87 makes this a collector's find." Price $125.00

Can any of you guys out there loan me you time machine for a few days?? Please, please.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:36 PM
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I know what you mean....... or a brand new 1969 Z 28 302 for $2800. Of course the reality is we all just had to work hard to make that money back then.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:41 PM
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A 1957 dollar is worth $8.75 today due to inflation.

Still a great deal but not as big a deal if it was a 1-1 dollar match.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:50 PM
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I know what you mean....... or a brand new 1969 Z 28 302 for $2800. Of course the reality is we all just had to work hard to make that money back then.
I got a laugh out of your reply, "...back then." In 1957 (catalog's date) I was right around 5 yrs. old. It was hard work for me just stay out of trouble.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:08 PM
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Don't forget, if you go back in time to find those $59.50 US&S pistols you're also going to have to deal with a paycheck that earns just $1.50 an hour.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:10 PM
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Yup. But you could feed a family on that and most mothers didn't have to get a job as well. Although she did have to raise those screaming kids. I must be terribly old - I can remember working for $1.50 an hour. Gasoline only costs 15 cents a gallon.

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Old 05-17-2017, 10:19 PM
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My father paid $87 for a brand-new Colt Government Model back in 1966. MSRP at the time was $82.50 so he probably felt like he was gypped.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:35 PM
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The trick is to travel back with a pocket full of $100 dollar bills so you can buy whatever you want at those prices.
But I'd rather bet $100 on the World Series at the start of the season and rake it in. Set up payment to a bank acct. Come back and have the winnings and interest of fifty years built up in it.
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:17 AM
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The trick is to travel back with a pocket full of $100 dollar bills so you can buy whatever you want at those prices.
But I'd rather bet $100 on the World Series at the start of the season and rake it in. Set up payment to a bank acct. Come back and have the winnings and interest of fifty years built up in it.
They would have to be vintage $100 bills or you would get busted for counterfeiting with our new bills dated 2000 something.
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:56 AM
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Of course.
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:56 AM
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You talked me into it. I'm going to go buy 10 of those new Camaro's and store away for 50 years. Oh wait, I'll be dead by then, but just think how wealthy my descendants will be!
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:10 AM
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It would be nice to just go back a few decades to when Shotgun News was the only place to get stuff and .308 was $150 a case. Before Al Gore invented the Internet.
Heck I remember getting a 1600rnd case of Philippino 5.56 in a wood box for $99.
Still got the box.
And forget the cars I'd buy a boatload of machine guns for what they were back then and sell em now.
Geesh I remember looking at a registered receiver Hk53 for like $2700 and now you can add another zero to that.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:00 PM
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You talked me into it. I'm going to go buy 10 of those new Camaro's and store away for 50 years. Oh wait, I'll be dead by then, but just think how wealthy my descendants will be!
It seems every time I see a story about somebody who stored a car for 50+ years by the time anyone gets back to it it's all covered in rust and rat poop.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:17 PM
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It seems every time I see a story about somebody who stored a car for 50+ years by the time anyone gets back to it it's all covered in rust and rat poop.
There was an episode of 'Chasing classic cars' where he finds a barn find that was like that. I forget the type of car. But he decided to leave the inside and outside as is and only just barely worked on the motor to get it running. Then he ran it thru the auction the exact same way as it was found in the barn. The bidders went crazy and it sold for like $200,000 or some insane amount. He gambled that in the original untouched filthy shape it was in would drive the millionaires mad and he was right.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:14 PM
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And you could by most of them at Sears.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:20 PM
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What about Fed's 2% inflation target?

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A 1957 dollar is worth $8.75 today due to inflation.

Still a great deal but not as big a deal if it was a 1-1 dollar match.
I calculate that if inflation had been kept at the Fed's 2% "target" rate over the past 60 years that 1957 dollar would now be worth $3.28, almost 3 times what it's really worth. Inflation is the silent thief that sucks the value out of our retirement savings.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:20 PM
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At the OP. If you ever get that time machine please let me know. I left something behind in 2006 that I would like to get back.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:37 PM
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I calculate that if inflation had been kept at the Fed's 2% "target" rate over the past 60 years that 1957 dollar would now be worth $3.28, almost 3 times what it's really worth. Inflation is the silent thief that sucks the value out of our retirement savings.
The government *wants* inflation. It's the way that they can borrow money and pay it back in dollars that are worth less than what they borrowed.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:11 PM
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Yea, I know what you mean. In 1972 I had a chance to buy a pristine, 16,000 mile Shelby GT350 for $2000. I did buy the Jaguar XKE 2 door 1964 coupe, with enclosed headlights and three carb setup. Had $4000 in it and sold it for $2,000...lol!

At least 20 years ago I bought a 1970 Meyers Manx SR...serial number 2. I still have it, Corvair powered with 4 one barrel carbs. I also bought a Vector Mini UZI Class 3 which I also still have. I just sold the 1973 Triumph Tiger 750 5 spd.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:16 PM
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You might have seen in the news that Stephen Hawking had a party for time travelers, but no one showed. Not looking good.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:36 PM
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A 1957 dollar is worth $8.75 today due to inflation.

Still a great deal but not as big a deal if it was a 1-1 dollar match.
So a "good condition" US&S for $520.62? I'll take ten.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:46 PM
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I've fantasized about it a lot, having been an avid Sci Fi reader as a youngster. When you think about it, the problems associated with going back in time and buying things are insurmountable. So, you decide to take gold back with you because of the obvious currency problems; guess what, gold is $35 an ounce in 1957. A new car is $1800 and a modest home is $20,000. So a new '57 Chevy 283 Fuelie would cost you 51 ounces of gold that you paid $1200/once for in our time, or $61,714. For the moment we'll ignore how you convert that pile of gold into cash without attracting law enforcement attention. Not to mention the fact that you don't even exist in that time so how do you get the car released without registration? But hey, the absolutely new '57 would be worth several times that amount in our time. But how do you get it back here? If you store it away in 1957, expecting to open that garage in 2017 and drive out a new '57, you'll find the sad picture described above - 60 years of rat chewing and birds pooping will leave it a wreck needing a total restoration. So, regardless of the fact that it most likely never will be possible to go back in time, the paradoxes and problems that go with it are too crushing to even consider, like for example the possibility that you would do something in the past that would change your future. Just the future you come back to - the future you left continues on its on track. So you come back and everything's different - like the language. And you're suddenly an outcast trapped in time. Hmmm, I might have a story there.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:51 PM
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Time Travel:

A few years ago I found a cardboard box in the attic full of old gun magazines (1960s). The back cover page was full of ads for 1911s, Lugers, etc all in excellent condition...of course when I bought those magazines, that was all I could afford to buy. I burned all those old magazines!!!
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:03 PM
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I agree with you all about days gone by, but I think this is going to be seen as a golden time too. Gas is $2.25/gal S&W Shields for less than $300 Dodge Demons have hp to pop wheelies, you can get a PSA AR for under $500, a nice Colt 1911 for less than $800 and a V8 Mustang for less than $30k, new.

There's a fair chance that someone will be looking at these threads in 2027 saying -
"YOU IDIOTS, YOU DIDNT REALIZE HOW GOOD YOU HAD IT!!!"
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:07 PM
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agree. just might go get the gt mustang.
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