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Old 05-13-2017, 01:24 PM
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Warranty? Slightly loose ed brown special forces

Warranty? Slightly loose slide to frame fit ed brown special forces.
Got it Brand new unfired from first owner.

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Old 05-13-2017, 04:18 PM
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Slide to frame fit has little to do with accuracy if the barrel locks up tight. How does it shoot?
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Old 05-13-2017, 06:36 PM
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From the Ed Brown FAQ page

What type of accuracy are your handguns capable of at 50 yards? Which models are most accurate? Does a 1911 barrel/slide/frame fit have to be super tight to get the most accuracy possible?

Ed Brown guns are capable of producing the accuracy the highest quality ammunition is capable of. With a 45 ACP, this is about 1 1/2" at 50 yards. A common misconception is that a gun has to be extremely tight to be accurate. What is required to reach the accuracy potential is consistent lock up of the critical components. Any tighter than zero movement is useless, and can only reduce reliability and detract from handling. It doesn't have to be tight, it just has to be right.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:37 PM
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Side to side or up and down movement or both? How much? Does it rattle?
Is there movement with the rails oiled?
I have two EB one in stainless and one in carbon.
When there is oil on the rails I have no movement but if I clean and put the slide on the frames before I put oil on them there is a tiny bit of play from side to side, after I put oil on the rails and assemble there is no movement.
The barrels lock up tight and they are shooters.
I don't want a super tight 1911.
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:24 PM
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Ed Brown does not and never has built a tight pistol.

Lube, shoot and enjoy.

EDIT: If it was looser than what you wanted.....why did you buy it????
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:35 PM
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If the barrel locks up tight into the slide and the sights are securely fixed to that slide the gun will be accurate. If the barrel locks up loosely and differently every time it goes into battery the gun will not be accurate. Slide to frame fit is maybe 10 - 15% of the accuracy equation.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:38 PM
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You'll have to quantify it more. Just how much "play" are we talking about? 1/16"? 1/32"?

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Old 05-14-2017, 10:27 AM
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As others have said, it will probably still shoot. I do understand your unhappiness. I doubt that EB will go along with a warranty repair/replacement. I even saw a brand new in the box LB 1.5"@50 yd PII that was loose as a goose but it did carry the LB guarantee. (This was a few years back and at that time LB did guarantee the 1.5" @ 50 yd capability). It's very unfortunate but I don't think that there is any inexpensive repair for a manufacturer to do to save face on this type of situation.
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:33 AM
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Good lord people read too many gun rags or read too many internet posts by people who do not know what they are talking about lol... The "tight" slide is a "feel good".
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:37 AM
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And doesn't requires precision measuring....
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Good lord people read too many gun rags or read too many internet posts by people who do not know what they are talking about lol... The "tight" slide is a "feel good".

I agree with this ^^^^^ too much comparing and maybe not enough shooting.

Different makers have their own build philosophes, as well the purchasers of these pistols. Accuracy and reliability mean more to me.

I have a rattling WW2 GI Remington Rand that is older than me, and it still shoots 4" groups at 25 yards. Bench rest that is.
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Thanks for the answers. The barrel locks up very snug and tight to the slide and bushing.
There's much less than 1mm of play in the slide to frame fit but I have not put a mic to it.

I'm new to 1911's if that was not obvious so I was basing the slide tightness off a Les Baer I've got used vs this new Ed Brown. It has basically zero play.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:31 PM
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Thanks for the answers. The barrel locks up very snug and tight to the slide and bushing.
There's much less than 1mm of play in the slide to frame fit but I have not put a mic to it.

I'm new to 1911's if that was not obvious so I was basing the slide tightness off a Les Baer I've got used vs this new Ed Brown. It has basically zero play.
They're 2 different build philosophy's in those. I'm in agreement with others. Lube, shoot, repeat. Don't worry about cleaning it, just snake the bore. Lube & shoot.
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Thanks for the answers. The barrel locks up very snug and tight to the slide and bushing.
There's much less than 1mm of play in the slide to frame fit but I have not put a mic to it.

I'm new to 1911's if that was not obvious so I was basing the slide tightness off a Les Baer I've got used vs this new Ed Brown. It has basically zero play.
I'll ask the question again.

If it was "too loose" for you.....why did you buy it?
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:22 PM
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I'll ask the question again.

If it was "too loose" for you.....why did you buy it?
Same reason, I married the first wife - Stupid, LOL
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Old 05-16-2017, 08:33 PM
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Well, nobody wants a gun or a wife that's too loose.

Somebody had to say it.
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:52 AM
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I'll ask the question again.

If it was "too loose" for you.....why did you buy it?
He conceded he's "new to 1911s". What else do you want him to say-"I'm too stupid to know any better"? Not everybody is as smart as we sometimes think we are...
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:28 AM
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He conceded he's "new to 1911s". What else do you want him to say-"I'm too stupid to know any better"? Not everybody is as smart as we sometimes think we are...
Step back from the ledge this morning....have another cup of coffee....take a deep breath.....

It was just a question dude......and 3 days ago at that. The day will get better for you, I'm sure.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:34 PM
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Well if the wife was to loose for me, I would take it, but not for others
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:26 PM
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Well, nobody wants a gun or a wife that's too loose.

Somebody had to say it.
Says the guy with KY in his username.....ahem.....
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:14 PM
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some need lubrication

some need poli-grip
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:42 PM
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How does the KY work on the frame rails of a 1911?
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:23 AM
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Measure it and report back OP. Save this thread with some worthwhile facts :-)
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:42 PM
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How does the KY work on the frame rails of a 1911?
Not well enough.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:43 AM
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Thanks for the answers. The barrel locks up very snug and tight to the slide and bushing.
There's much less than 1mm of play in the slide to frame fit but I have not put a mic to it.

I'm new to 1911's if that was not obvious so I was basing the slide tightness off a Les Baer I've got used vs this new Ed Brown. It has basically zero play.
My Les Baer was ridiculously tight when I got it . Either of my "loose" Ed Browns will outshoot it any day of the week.
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