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Old 02-14-2013, 07:01 PM
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Wow!!

Lots of useful information! Thanks a bunch! helped me pick out my first, a Kimber custom TLE/RL II.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:02 PM
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I am also a first time buyer. I have the opportunity to buy a Remington Rand M1911A1 serial 1521xxx it has clearish grips on it. I was told that soldiers did this to put pictures behind them. From my understanding the pistol checks out and is legit. It will come with an old leather case that says US on it. 2 mags with mag holsters and a belt. he wanted $1195 for it. I offered him $900 and excepted because I am prior service. Do you think this is worth it?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:16 PM
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Thanks for that great advice! I'm a new 1911 owner and I too read many helpful posts here before purchasing. I went with a Kimber Custom CDP. So far, I really like it but I've only put about 200 rounds through. I must say, the magazine issue is aggravating but beyond that, it seems to be a nice gun. I got a Wilson combat mag and that's definitely a plus! Thanks again dsk and all contributors.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:05 PM
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Very nice!
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:23 AM
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Thank you much, I went and bought a SigSauer 1911 nitron railed on Thursday.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:41 PM
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Really glad I read this. As someone looking for advice on the various 1911s out there, this was definitely some good food for thought. Thanks!
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:26 AM
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Great list of good practices. I just picked up my first pistol yesterday, but at least I found this in time for the last 5 steps.

One question though in regards to item 8. Is CLP something you want to use or are there other products out there that would be better suited to the task?
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:45 AM
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Read #10 3 day's late. Oh well, maybe I'll get lucky. Waiting period in full effect here in Ca.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:08 PM
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thinking about the colt new agent 07810dn with the night sights...anyone one it?
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:41 AM
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Well, I didn't see this before I ordered my first 1911. I guess I went against everything you warned me about. I just ordered an STI Trojan 1911 in 40 cal. S&W. I have other 40 cal weapons and I have a lot of 40 cal. ammo so I didn't want to switch to 45. I never handled an STI so I guess that is another thing I should have tried to do but there is none around. I have never even seen a used STI anywhere....
What do you 1911 experts think of the STI guns? I'd really like to know. thanks... I hoope I didn't make a mistake... Pete
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:50 PM
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What do you 1911 experts think of the STI guns? I'd really like to know. thanks... I hoope I didn't make a mistake... Pete
I don't have any experience with one but the folks on here generally give them a good review. STI takes Armscor frames and fits their own barrel/slides onto them. I'd be surprised if you aren't satisfied with your new gun.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:58 PM
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Great list,very helpfull in getting focused on the job at hand. Item 4 is one that I think bares a bit of research and practice to get down quickly.

4.) Pay attention to the fit and finish. Watch for heavy tooling marks, poor fitting and blending of the parts, uneven edges, off-center machining cuts, and rough assembly such as stiff thumb safeties, hammers that don't smoothly snick to half and full cock, and heavy, gritty trigger pulls.

If one has not handled these guns much, it can be a challenge descerning a truely problem trigger from one that is just a typical new untouched, unimproved trigger. Get some time in feeling various new guns and used ones to gain an idea how a normal new trigger feels within the price range you are searching.

Also, I think it would be a good idea for the serious buyer to get some time in learning how to safely field strip the 1911 which includes practical experience doing this, not simply reading up on it. In this way, you will be competent when the time comes to better inspect any 1911 you are ready to buy. Field stripping is needed to evaluate the machining inside the slide, bbl link, locking lugs. You can see if there are overly shallow cuts, or irregular frame demensions not seen when it's assembled. I would hold off doing this except on the specific 1911 you might be ready to buy. Some dealers aren't crazy about having some nit-wit strip down the merchandise, causing idot scratches, or loosing springs; so be prepared for that, maybe ask the dealer to do this for you.

Learn good etiquette for handling pistols in a shop, remember the safety rules still apply then too. Don't let the 1911 slide fly home on an empty chamber. Things like that.

The more you can handle the 1911, KNOWING in advance how it feels and functions, the more compfortable you will be when shopping, better able to concentrate on the job at hand which is evaluating the details laid out in item 4 of the list.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:11 PM
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Guess this rules out my ruger sr1911.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:35 PM
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Guess this rules out my ruger sr1911.
I would call Ruger an exception to the cast rule. It is cast, but Ruger's casting process is the best in the industry. There's a reason people use Ruger Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks for guinea pigs when they're building wildcat revolver cartridges. While Smith & Wesson had to build an entirely new frame for the .500 Magnum, you can take a Ruger .480, bore it out to .500, and it will be perfectly fine.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:50 PM
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thinking about the colt new agent 07810dn with the night sights...anyone one it?
My wife owns a standard New Agent and loves it. She shoots it very well with the trench sight. I can only amagine how much better it would be with night sights.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:47 PM
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GREAT POINTS! (at the risk of offering advice from too little experience) I'd say one key is that there appear to be three grades/groups of 1911s:

1) Cast parts, made simply. Price new is under $850. A decent gun may be had that will give years of good service. But not worth investing upgrades or further work into.

2) A quality manufactured gun with premium parts: Price new $1300 to $1800. This is a gun which may have up to $1,000 (or more) of gunsmithing and upgrades put into it if you wish... or you have a very fine gun as is. This is the gun which the above points say shoot for awhile then consider what you might want to change (trigger? safety? grip? sights? barrel?).

3) Gunsmithed gun. Semi-Custom. Price new is $2,300 - $5,000. A gun #2 which has at least $1,000 of work on it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:56 PM
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Another point that I didn't see above...

If this is your first 1911, then how useful will it be before you have put 1,000 rounds through it? In terms of your accuracy, the 1911 platform, and in terms of your intuitive understanding of your particular gun? In our current overheated environment, that's at least $800 of .45 ACP. So just add $800 to whatever price you are thinking of.

Not to mention, you may catch 1911 disease and NEED to buy more 1911s, LOL.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:10 PM
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The other method of buying is to bring or find the most (1911) knowledgeable person you can at a large well stocked gun show and ask them "what is the best 1911 for sale here?"

That was my method and I got very lucky (new Springfield TRP Stainless Steel Loaded that is very accurate, best slide fit imaginable, smooth pull, etc.)

Which brings up another aspect of buying a 1911: LUCK. It's not all about the price or brand or componentry. Either fortunately or unfortunately there is a lot of uniqueness to each 1911 and you may get one that is either better or worse than you have a right to expect given price and brand.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:40 PM
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i applied everything i read in this thread a few months ago, and i have a really fine pistol that shoots well, and doesn't give me any problems... i guess i got lucky. feels that way!


thanks again, guys.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:04 PM
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The other method of buying is to bring or find the most (1911) knowledgeable person you can at a large well stocked gun show and ask them "what is the best 1911 for sale here?"

That was my method and I got very lucky (new Springfield TRP Stainless Steel Loaded that is very accurate, best slide fit imaginable, smooth pull, etc.)

Which brings up another aspect of buying a 1911: LUCK. It's not all about the price or brand or componentry. Either fortunately or unfortunately there is a lot of uniqueness to each 1911 and you may get one that is either better or worse than you have a right to expect given price and brand.
Aye, that or cruise the forum for a year and look at photos of what's good and what's wrong with 1911s, so you know what to lok for. Wish i had had a 1911 savvy person when i started looking... I had to spend a year on here instead... Glad i did, my pistol is NOT a lemon.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:07 PM
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Well put, great information.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:51 PM
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:48 PM
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Hi all,
First time poster to this forum and I think I selected the correct thread to post this message. I just want to let everyone know about the Fusion kit I am trying to put together. I ordered the kit on December 3, 2012, I had a good conversation with Bob and got it ordered. Then I waited for my parts to show up. Now mind you I was not in any hurry. I got the first parts of my kit about a month later, but not all the pieces were in it. That's ok I contacted Bob and he said they were back ordered but they had them now and the would get them right out. So I have been patently waiting ever since. I have contacted Bob via e-mail and by phone and I don't want to say I am getting the run around but I keep getting the same answer, it's in the fit shop. Now I am still patently waiting for the rest of my gun but I just wanted the people of this forum to know, if your looking at one of these kits be prepared to wait for some time. I am not sure what to make of this, I am a first time builder is this normal?
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Old 06-11-2013, 06:19 AM
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Great info, I'm glad I saw this before I bought mine
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:01 AM
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Great advice thankyou!!!
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