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Old 11-29-2019, 10:29 AM
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Now the British "experts" are recommending people carry umbrellas and walking sticks to defend against knife attacks. It doesn't appear that these experts have considered that umbrellas and sticks can be used as offensive weapons as well. The Brits should quit "beating about the shrubbery," (Cooperism) and let decent people carry guns for effective defense.
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Old 11-29-2019, 10:42 AM
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I wonder how many are going to be thrown in jail for sharpening the end of their umbrella? So very stupid that people canít defend themselves. I wonder if a wrist rocket is legal? It would almost be fun to pelt the crap out of that doof!
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:49 PM
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One the other hand, London just had a "terror" attack with a guy wearing a fake bomb vest going around stabbing people on the London Bridge. By standers was able to hold him until "armed" police arrived. I guessed they discovered the vest and took no chance, dispatched him with what appeared to be some kind of 5.56 SBR. One shot ended the whole mess.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/london...ts-of-gunshots

The video of the actual one shot dispatching has been disabled. This youtube link showed what led up to just before the trigger was pulled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAgijjUUQQA
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Old 11-29-2019, 12:59 PM
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One the other hand, London just had a "terror" attack with a guy wearing a fake bomb vest going around stabbing people on the London Bridge. By standers was able to hold him until "armed" police arrived. I guessed they discovered the vest and took no chance, dispatched him with what appeared to be some kind of 5.56 SBR. One shot ended the whole mess.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/london...ts-of-gunshots

The video of the actual one shot dispatching has been disabled. This youtube link showed what led up to just before the trigger was pulled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAgijjUUQQA
Finally, the British Bobbies have grown gonads to use firepower to end a threat quickly.
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:24 PM
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Another generic nondescript terror attack based on media coverage. Probably an angry white supremacist.
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Old 11-29-2019, 03:33 PM
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The London attacker is/was middle eastern.

A similar incident just happened in the Hague, Netherlands.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:11 PM
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One the other hand, London just had a "terror" attack with a guy wearing a fake bomb vest going around stabbing people on the London Bridge. By standers was able to hold him until "armed" police arrived. I guessed they discovered the vest and took no chance, dispatched him with what appeared to be some kind of 5.56 SBR. One shot ended the whole mess.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/london...ts-of-gunshots

The video of the actual one shot dispatching has been disabled. This youtube link showed what led up to just before the trigger was pulled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAgijjUUQQA
Video is still "up", for the moment, on Russian news:

https://www.rt.com/uk/474681-moment-...-stabber-shot/

London police were wise IMHO not to fool around with the assailant/thug/terrorist.

One or more unarmed citizens (or possibly tourists, given the location) were likely quite courageous in their actions. Not that courage is a substitute for good armed citizens, but those one or more citizens or tourists probably saved further carnage.

In one of the RT videos, another person is seen running away with a knife in his hand after the police fired. Perhaps a "good guy" in intent, but appears a curious action (?)...if he had been seen by the police, with that knife in hand, he might have been at some risk.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:13 PM
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The London attacker is/was middle eastern.
A fact that was obviously known as soon as it happened. However, the CBS on line report updated about half an hour ago purposefully excluded any information about his motivation. He killed 2 people and injured 3 but the main thing is we are supposed to pretend we don't know why he did it.
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:20 PM
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In one of the RT videos, another person is seen running away with a knife in his hand after the police fired. Perhaps a "good guy" in intent, but appears a curious action (?)...if he had been seen by the police, with that knife in hand, he might have been at some risk.
He was seen retrieving the knife out of the original civilian vs. attacker melee and backing away from the scuffle. There were many people around seeing him so mistaking him for an attacker is unlikely.
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Old 11-29-2019, 10:14 PM
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He was seen retrieving the knife out of the original civilian vs. attacker melee and backing away from the scuffle. There were many people around seeing him so mistaking him for an attacker is unlikely.
I'd hoped this was the situation...but didn't know with any certainty. Thank you Ricky for confirming.
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Old 11-29-2019, 11:58 PM
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I watched those videos and it appeared that way.

The stabber was arrested in 2012 on terroristic charges and was released a year ago.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:46 AM
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I watched those videos and it appeared that way.

The stabber was arrested in 2012 on terroristic charges and was released a year ago.
Of course he was.
Why in the world would anyone hold someone of Middle Eastern descent just because they have been proven to be a terrorist. That would be racist!
No one thought to keep an eye on him either! Probably perfectly fine to fly out of LaGuardia as well.....
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:49 AM
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Finally, the British Bobbies have grown gonads to use firepower to end a threat quickly.
The truth is that those allowed to carry firepower have to be summoned. It will be interesting to see if slowly ALL Bobbies will be packing!
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Old 11-30-2019, 11:19 AM
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The truth is that those allowed to carry firepower have to be summoned. It will be interesting to see if slowly ALL Bobbies will be packing!
If having a British soldier beheaded in their streets by a Muslim crazy didn't awaken them of the need to be armed, nothing will.
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Old 12-01-2019, 10:33 AM
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Ainít that the truth!
Stupid is as stupid does.....
I heard a stat that more people were killed by stabbings in London than homicides in New York. What does it take? Perhaps threatening to take the tea away?
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:45 PM
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Do not bring a machete to a gunfight.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:55 AM
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Thatís the irony, he brought a machete to a fight with a bunch of puppets with only cobblestones, teacups and a whale bone or two () to defend themselves with. That dude had been detained several times before for the same crap. It makes California look like the Land of Oz. Come to think of it, California does look like the land of Oz!
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Old 12-11-2019, 01:28 AM
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lapd

getting back to the subject, did the lapd officer that was later chased fire his gun, and if he did, was the suspect struck?

looking at the video i couldn't tell.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:19 AM
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Just shoot the scum and save the tax payers the money.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:51 AM
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I keep getting that flashback of Indiana Jones dispatching that sword swinging sand pirate! That should be the threat.....run around like a fool with a big blade and get terminated!!
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:29 PM
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Just shoot the scum and save the tax payers the money.
The problem is assuring you shoot the correct person.

Law enforcement has my undying sympathy for the split second decisions they sometime must make to use lethal force.

I had to make triage decisions at accidents and that was hard enough.
Do I send the worst injury off and reduce the manpower available at the scene for the less injured?
How do you draw that line?

Brady was the last person pulled from the Reagan assassination scene.
A bullet hole in the middle of you forehead is rather likely to be lethal.
We now know that the initial injury may cause a loss of respiration that can lead to death.
Placing the patient on a ventilator may well improve their survival rate with less damage than was expected.
The army shot a lot of cats with BB guns to find that out.
Even the minor damage of the BB gun could impair respiration that might return after multiple hours on a ventilator.
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Old 12-12-2019, 08:39 AM
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This was an easy one! A crazed lunatic foaming at the mouth swinging a blade around. Iím not asking questions or looking for the whites of his eyes. Nighty Night!
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