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Old 12-27-2010, 10:55 AM
YamaLink YamaLink is offline
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Now the Wilson 47D mags won't fit, filing mag release

This Spartan is odd. It fits my 7 round Springfield mags without issue, but today's try with brand new Wilson 47D is tight like my others.

I truly believe it's the mag release. Mags go in with empty frame, trigger bow and sear ( no bowing). Mags get difficult when release button is inserted. I think it's time to file.

Any dos and don'ts?
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:06 AM
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Go slow. Probably only needs a little. With the slide off, you should be able to insert the mag and see exactly where it's rubbing the mag body.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:12 AM
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Slide is off. Mag catch is out.

Wilson 47D and all the 8-round ACT and Mec-Gar mags do not drop free.

The only ones that go in super easy and drop free are the 7-round Springfield and 7-round Kimber mags. A little bit of leeway between the mag and frame.

The 47D and other 8 round mags are a very very snug fit. Won't drop.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:22 AM
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Measure the tubes and see if there is much of a difference between the ones that work and don't work. I had to file the basepads on my 47NX magazines to work with my SV mag well.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:27 AM
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The ones that won't drop free are about .20 wider (front to back) and .15 thicker (side to side).
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:31 AM
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Hello: Get a new extended mag release. I use the Wilson one. You may have to releave the mag release on the left hand side so when you press it fully it will not hold the mag. Thanks, Eric
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:36 AM
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I think it's a combo of mag size and sear spring issues.

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Old 12-27-2010, 11:46 AM
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Stupid question I can't answer from available info: It's not the grip screws, is it?
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:49 PM
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Good question. Not the grip screws.

After yet a few more glorious hours working on the Spartan (I swear the gun can be stripped in less than 30 seconds now) I believe it is the sear spring nub where it passes through the frame and into the magwell.

Take the sear spring out and put everything back in: perfect. Every mag.

Gonna take a file to the sear spring nub so it does not pass into the magwell but still hooks and stays in position with the MSH pressure.
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:21 PM
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Hello: Isn't working on 1911's fun I forgot to add I use a Ed Brown sear spring since the original broke after I tried to adjust it. You may have to use a grinder to shorten the tang since may be a little hard. My Spartan is one of the original ones built so it may be a little different. It now wears a checkered front strap and all that is left is the French border and hard chrome. Thanks, Eric
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Old 12-27-2010, 02:08 PM
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I have the grinder wheel ready to go!
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Old 12-27-2010, 04:49 PM
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It works, it works!!!

Sear spring tab ground down so it no longer protrudes too far into the magwell.
Flat wide file down the edge where the mag slides up/down.
Mag catch release ground down.
Took the opportunity to file/clean/grind/polish everything.

Whew!!!! Totally worth it. Thanks for all the help.
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:57 AM
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This Spartan is odd. It fits my 7 round Springfield mags without issue, but today's try with brand new Wilson 47D is tight like my others.

I truly believe it's the mag release. Mags go in with empty frame, trigger bow and sear ( no bowing). Mags get difficult when release button is inserted. I think it's time to file.

Any dos and don'ts?
Before you do anything, check the inside of the mag tunnel and see if any of the grip screw bushings are portruding enough to drag on the mag body. This was the case with my Spartan, and a few passes with a file solved the problem!
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