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Old 12-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Tallison 1911 Tallison 1911 is offline
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STI durability

I like the responses so far for the STI. What I'm curious about is the durability. Kimber boasts it's use by military and law enforcement. Before it starts yes I know contracts are won bu lowest bidder. But they also need to pass certain durability tests. How does the STI stand up to the cold weather, lack of lubrication, and grime tests?
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:01 PM
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STI is probably the most common gun used in USPSA Open and Limited class competiton. The top shooters put tens of thousands of rounds through their gun anually. I think if there was a question of duribility, they wouldn't be so popular in competition.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:32 PM
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Hello: I have seen a couple of STI's that have shot over 100,000 rounds and one had over 200,000 and is used by a very good revolver shooter Thanks, Eric
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:30 PM
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How does the STI stand up to the cold weather, lack of lubrication, and grime tests?
If this is your big concern, get a Glock.

In general, quality 1911's have fairly tight tolerances. Also compared to a Glock or similar pistol, 1911's bearing surfaces (slide to frame interface) is larger. Generally the larger the interface the greater the friction, requiring more lube, and tolerating less grit.

Since you are posing similar questions in the Kimber section. You seem to be shopping for a 1911. Are you taking it to war? If not, most any 1911 from a quality manufacturer will likely work for you.

Kimber, Springfield, Colt, STI,Dan Wesson and a slew of custom and semi custom makers all make fine guns.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:10 PM
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I agree ^^, my Spartan seems to be very tight and probably wouldn't run very well without oil, or extremely dirty. I only have about 500 rounds thru mine so I am no expert on STI's but with the tightness of it now I don't think or want it to loosen up much.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:22 PM
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Reliability is a very broad term.

If you keep a reasonable amount of lubrication in the gun and keep the critical areas (i.e. feedway) from getting too cruddy, the gun will be reliable enough.

It's my belief you won't be able to neglect it as much as a more modern service pistol design such as the Glock or Beretta.

Given good parts, you can put a whole lot of rounds through a 1911/2011 before it's worn out. You will be replacing some parts along the way, though.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:22 PM
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Ive shot my Trojan 9mm in Steel Challenge matches in 30 degree weather. 200 rounds and it ran like a top! After a few mags, the cold isn't an issue. The gun will warm itself.

I can't imagine a scenario where it would be too cold and dirty to function. (What are you going to do, invade Siberia?)
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:35 AM
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I have one gun that went over 160,000 rounds last month BUT it has had three barrels and four slides (I keep a log on the high volume guns). I have some SVs that have gone over 70,000 rounds but both have their second top end and also have their own logs. That high volume gun will go a LONG time without cleaning and can easily do a thousand round match without cleaning ( I've cleaned it ONCE this year and it gets 500 rounds every weekend!)
1911s can have a long service life especially if set up correctly but barrels don't last very long if they don't have tenifer or titanium nitride finishes so don't expect long barrel life if you shoot allot at one time (getting the barrel hot!)
I can't find anyone to hard chrome the INSIDE of barrels anymore but that adds allot of barrel life. Armaloy in Ft Worth used to but not lately.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:26 AM
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I have one gun that went over 160,000 rounds last month BUT it has had three barrels and four slides (I keep a log on the high volume guns). I have some SVs that have gone over 70,000 rounds but both have their second top end and also have their own logs. That high volume gun will go a LONG time without cleaning and can easily do a thousand round match without cleaning ( I've cleaned it ONCE this year and it gets 500 rounds every weekend!)
1911s can have a long service life especially if set up correctly but barrels don't last very long if they don't have tenifer or titanium nitride finishes so don't expect long barrel life if you shoot allot at one time (getting the barrel hot!)
I can't find anyone to hard chrome the INSIDE of barrels anymore but that adds allot of barrel life. Armaloy in Ft Worth used to but not lately.
wow!! wish I had that many rounds to shoot
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:43 PM
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I'm curious because I love the durability of the HK USP and no I'm not going to war or invading Serbia. I just want a weapon that won't let me down if my life depended on it under any condition. Besides I want to know that when I go to shooting competions that if the weather is bad that it won't fail.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:05 AM
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We shoot year-round where I'm at, and my Trojan has been thru all kinds of weather -some of which in retrospect I probably would have been happier at home drinking hot cocoa... with no problems. While I may not be religious about cleaning it, I do lube it regularly. Just find a good lube that works in cold weather.

These guns are pretty rugged, and like Parallax said, if there were issues with them they would not have garnered much popularity with the USPSA crowd.

Based on my experiences and just about everyone that's replied, I think you can buy with confidence in any of STI's products.

Which one are you looking at?
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:06 AM
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I have an sti tactical and while I will say it is definitely a sure fire gun, it 100 percent requires a "power grip". For competition this is fine, but for bullseye shooting...this can sometimes be a little annoying as FTEs/FTFs can happen if you are not completely "on" with your grip...
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:07 AM
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I like the uspsa single stack
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:39 PM
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I like the uspsa single stack
I've only seen one at a match, but didn't get a chance to shoot it. But from what I hear, it's a good solid gun, typical of STI quality.

Best part about the USPSA edition 1911 is they contribute a portion of the proceeds to USPSA. So, you get to support the people who support the sport at the same time you're supporting the sport... (if that makes any sense...)
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