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Old 10-01-2010, 08:30 PM
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STI Spartan or Rock Island Armory Tactical?

STI Spartan or Rock Island Armory Tactical? I was sold on the RIA, but now I'm drifting in the direction of the Spartan.

I like the grips that come with it, and I like the fiber optic front sight. I also like the additional grooves on the forward part of the slide.

What else should I consider? Internally, are they about the same? They are both ARMSCOR guns, correct?
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:37 PM
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Well nice to see you are drawn to quality

The Spartan is the RIA for STI - semi custom RIA pistol.
Slide is hand fitted
SS Hard Chrome lined barrel - match grade
Hard Chromed FLGR
Front cocking serrations
Adjustable rear sight
F/O front sight
STI trigger - hammer - grip safety - sear - disconnector

SMOOTH SMOOTH ACTION - did I mention accurate!!?

CONS: no ambi safety
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:48 PM
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Thanks for that inventory!

No ambi safety is no big deal, to me.

It seems that for an additional $150 or so I would be getting a lot more gun for my money.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:23 PM
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check out "CENTERFIRE SYSTEMS" ON LINE http://www.centerfiresystems.com/

They have the BEST prices on the STI SPARTAN - I think! I know they have the Match - $599 - same pistol as the Spartan - no front cocking serrations - but has the ambi safety - RIA small parts versus STI small parts - but that is a "no biggie" in my book - Same function - same performace - less money unless you just have to have the front cocking serrations ( I do not like them)
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:16 AM
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The STI also has a forged slide, the RIA is made of "extruded steel." The Spartan has STI internal parts shipped from the U.S. to the Philippines and are made to STI specs. STI then inspects them when they arrive assembled in the U.S. I am not knocking the RIA, I just think the difference in price is well justified -- $628 from Shooters Connection.
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:38 PM
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I'm hoping for an out the door price less than $700. I will have to pay sales tax or shipping/FFL fees if I buy it out of state. The nice thing about it is that there isn't anything I want to change on it: it's perfect "as is" for me.

Also I found these Chip McCormick SS mags on sale at Midway:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=783573
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=652828
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:03 PM
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well this is my first post. i recently was torn between the RIA tactical and the STI spartan. i did purchase the spartan. this gun is very accurate. it shoots better than i can shoot it. as far as the front serations on the slide that is a personal preference and did not sway my decision. i can't say anything about the RIA pistol since i didn't get one. but i can tell you if you did go with the STI you won't be disapointed. hope this helps. and i look forward to surfing the STI forums alot. oh yea on a side note when i was looking i was looking in 9mm. i couldn't coment if you are looking at the 45.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:20 PM
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Thanks Joer6.

It's interesting how many guys shoot the 1911 in 9mm these days.
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:37 PM
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Thanks Joer6.

It's interesting how many guys shoot the 1911 in 9mm these days.
yea kind of weird huh? i have a 45, 40, and a 9 now. next is a 38 super.
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:32 AM
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Besides the STI internals for the Spartan the next big difference to me are the sights. If you are looking for a range/competition 1911 the Spartan is a better choice. If you are thinking conceal carry the fixed sights of the RIA Tactical are better suited as there is much less risk of them being damaged. Another vote for Shooters Connection if you decide on the Spartan as Chuck will do you right.
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:31 AM
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Thanks Gary. That is a pretty good price.

That may be where I get it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:32 AM
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:15 PM
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i have a spartan and my friend has the RIA. Both are fit similarily but the trigger is much nicer on the Spartan. I like the sights better as well.
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:41 PM
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I have the RIA tactical, pretty good gun for the price. As others have mention the spartan has a armscor frame and slide but STI internals. Can't go wrong with both, but if you want adjustable rear and FO front I would go for the STI...or maybe a RIA match. If you do go for the tactical and don't like the black sights, a little dremel and white paint wont hurt. Good luck on the decision.




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Old 10-05-2010, 04:35 PM
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Depending on the application. If you will use it to shoot compettion then i'll go with the spartan. Other than that then RIA would be a good choice. Good luck.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:10 PM
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I am thinking I might use it in a 3 Gun competition. That's shooting steel plates, mostly, but I still like the idea of an adjustable rear sight and a fiber optic front.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:55 PM
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The Spartan in 9MM and 45ACP are listed in the 4th role down at a good price with a good company: http://shootersconnectionstore.com/1...0ASC&c=349&p=1
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:42 AM
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I sent the M.O. today. My FFL guy should have a brand new STI Spartan for me by the end of this week, God willin' the creek don't rise.



http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Spartan/Spartan.php

I got a good deal too. With mailing and FFL transefer fees, it came to about $670.
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:39 PM
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What? No high fives?
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:41 PM
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What? No high fives?
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:48 PM
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Thanks dude. Rock on.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:25 PM
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I have a trojan and just got back from shooting a steel match. and was thinking i'm gonna go home and look for a spartin in 9mm. and hear you guys found me a place to buy one.Thanks
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:31 AM
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Congrats! This is what im gonna go with for my first 1911 when the time comes...what caliber did you pick?
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:12 AM
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I have a trojan and just got back from shooting a steel match. and was thinking i'm gonna go home and look for a spartin in 9mm. and hear you guys found me a place to buy one.Thanks

You were choosing the 9mm because of the recoil of the .45?

If so, the steel challenge only requires you bullet velocity is 700 fps (Im going from memory here, double check).

You can tailor your reloads for that speed and drop down to a 14# or lighter recoil spring and get a pretty fast operating gun with less recoil.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:52 PM
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You were choosing the 9mm because of the recoil of the .45?

If so, the steel challenge only requires you bullet velocity is 700 fps (Im going from memory here, double check).

You can tailor your reloads for that speed and drop down to a 14# or lighter recoil spring and get a pretty fast operating gun with less recoil.
I do may own reloading and have them down loaded. 1. always wanted a 9mm 1911 2. Dont have to worry about the brass 9 is ezer to find 3. just a excuse to buy another gun.
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