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Old 12-24-2019, 09:04 AM
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7-Time World Champion Rob Leatham: Gun Guys

24-Time USPSA national champion and 7-Time IPSC World Champion shooter Rob Leatham talks about the keys to his success and the early days of discovering his obsession with practical pistol shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWhuvDTSqg
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Old 12-24-2019, 11:37 AM
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Thanks Amp, I always enjoy learning from my friends Bill, Ken, Robbie, and Larry on those gun guy videos.
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Old 12-25-2019, 09:46 AM
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Old 12-25-2019, 09:59 AM
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Last time I shot nationals, I walked the prize table with Leatham . . . Kippi Leatham, but still.
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:53 PM
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Rob is shooting a lot of bullseye now, and doing well. It's a steep learning curve going from practical to precision, but his desire to improve is incredible. Great guy to talk to while scoring targets in a match.
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Old 12-29-2019, 03:41 PM
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Seems to be a straight shooter in his opinions and why.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:28 PM
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Seems to be a straight shooter in his opinions and why.
I loved the end comments about just getting out and shooting matches.

I think I'm a competitor more than a shooter, and I'm a shooter more than a gun guy. If I can't compete I'm not all that interested in shooting, so if I'm not shooting then why do I need guns outside of home defense. Meh..........

What I'm getting at is I feel a breed apart from anyone at a range, and clearly Mr. Letham is a breed apart from me, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I hand fed my Army Reserve Unit an opportunity to go shooting, and offered them (I have command authority) a DAY OFF from a monthly drill to replace it with shooting a local Glock Challenge Match.

I only needed TWO of any of my 160 soldiers to go to the match. I supplied ammo, and guns. All they had to do is show up and register.

I only had ONE taker. So we didn't have enough to make a "Guardian" Division Team. With me carrying the Team we would won easily. My other guy that went did place 14/30. First time out, first time with a Glock, and my soldier placed MID PACK against other emergency responders and military. The pickings is easy if you enjoy shooting. I won, so if we had a third shooter he would only needed 29th/30 to have won as a team.

OH...... TOO BOOT!!!!!!!!!!!! There was an active duty Marine working as an RSO at the match. He was standing RIGHT THERE. I tried to get him to shoot with us as a team (we'd still qualify as a mixed Guardian Team), but NOPE!!!!!!!!! I had the pistol and ammo RIGHT THERE. He's standing RIGHT THERE, there's the range RIGHT THERE. Didn't want to compete................


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Old 12-30-2019, 10:21 AM
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I think they are more afraid of showing how inadequate they are with their sidearm. Police officers are the same way except for the very few that will put their skill set to the test and work hard to improve them
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Yup 95% of our dept doesn't shoot except for qualifications and that is a box of ammo, stactic, 15 yards and in. They just don't want to put the time and money into improving even though it could make the difference in going home, dead or jail. I get a handful of guys to go out with me to local uspsa/idpa matches just for different shooting skills. They like it just not enough to dedicate the time and money to once a month at the least. I have even told them about dry fire when they come to me for improvements in their shooting. I can take them to the range to waste a few boxes of ammo but they won't practice so the bad habits come back.
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I loved the end comments about just getting out and shooting matches.

I think I'm a competitor more than a shooter, and I'm a shooter more than a gun guy. If I can't compete I'm not all that interested in shooting, so if I'm not shooting then why do I need guns outside of home defense. Meh..........

What I'm getting at is I feel a breed apart from anyone at a range, and clearly Mr. Letham is a breed apart from me, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I hand fed my Army Reserve Unit an opportunity to go shooting, and offered them (I have command authority) a DAY OFF from a monthly drill to replace it with shooting a local Glock Challenge Match.
Same here. Every gun I own except my Glock 43 I bought for a specific sport in a specific division.
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I think they are more afraid of showing how inadequate they are with their sidearm. Police officers are the same way except for the very few that will put their skill set to the test and work hard to improve them
It's a competitive drive. We are lucky the young and physically fit are not draw to our sport. Old fat dudes can still rein at the top if they practice.
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:33 AM
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I have also offered ammo, administrative leave and a ride in a city vehicle to the Texas LE multi gun match. Justified because training hours were earned. I had 2 takers both did Ok in the match but never returned. I have worked in Law enforcement for over 37 years at a department of 80 sworn and I thought we would eventually hire someone who shared my interest into the shooting sports. It hasn't happened yet. I don't get it. My skill level has grown exponentially due to the shooting sports
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:34 PM
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.......I had 2 takers both did Ok in the match but never returned. .......thought we would eventually hire someone who shared my interest into the shooting sports. It hasn't happened yet. I don't get it. .............
I've come to the conclusion we are better off finding folks that like competing even if they've never put a gun in their hand.
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Yup 95% of our dept doesn't shoot except for qualifications and that is a box of ammo, stactic, 15 yards and in. They just don't want to put the time and money into improving even though it could make the difference in going home, dead or jail. I get a handful of guys to go out with me to local uspsa/idpa matches just for different shooting skills. They like it just not enough to dedicate the time and money to once a month at the least. I have even told them about dry fire when they come to me for improvements in their shooting. I can take them to the range to waste a few boxes of ammo but they won't practice so the bad habits come back.
I was a competition shooter before law enforcement. I joined the Sheriff's Pistol Team ( PPC, Open Revolver/SemiAuto, Distinguished, Duty S/A and Revo and Shotgun),as soon as I could. This opened the door to Range Master and Certified L/E Firearms Instructor. I got to spend about 4 days a month at the range prior to retirement 15 years ago!

My experience is the same as yours. I even got "spanked" for introducing patrol deputies to USPSA scenarios. We "used too much ammo"! The L/E culture doesn't see the firearm as an asset but a liability!

I've retired from competition due to degenerative bone disease in my neck. But I still get to do a little training with my SIL's MP unit and the local deputies. 's
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After watching this video I realize, much like golf, I got into the shooting game WAY too late in life. 😞
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I think some of it is the fact a lot of folks don't want to know just how badly they suck at something, and let everyone else see that, too. Lots of fragile egos out there.

Something I told my son and nephew when they got mad because I beat them at something I'd been doing for years and they just started doing is: You need to learn how to lose before you can learn how to win.

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Old 05-28-2020, 02:23 PM
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Some buddies and I conducted an "Intro to IPSC" class for a few years; a day in the classroom and practice, followed by a match coach-through.
These were people who approached us, apparently already interested, with their hands held through the entire process, and maybe 10% of them shot more than a handful of matches.
While we were never really able to determine why there wasn't a higher retention rate, I know some of them just didn't want to not be good at something, and seeing how much time, energy, and money would be required to become good, they decided it wasn't for them.
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