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Old 08-07-2015, 09:52 AM
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I haven't seen a Super Moderator on this forum, what exactly is the difference between a Super Moderator and our regular plain old Moderators?
...a cape, obviously
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:54 AM
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...a cape, obviously
And a red "S" on there chest.
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:02 AM
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The Arbitrary closing of threads here,is not any worse than the Arbitrary Starting of threads
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:25 PM
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Some answers for you: THIS FORUM CAN NOT BE EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY AND WE WILL NOT TRY!

1) This is a privately owned website. You have no 1st amend rights here. This is private property and you are here as a guest. Who owns it has nothing to do with the content. I don’t know myself and I do not care and neither should you. The staff is free to moderate the site with no interference.

2) Lounge type sub-forum: It was tried several times with bad results. It got out of control and was closed. It will not be tried again.

3) A military forum is not warranted. This is a 1911 forum, not a vet forum. As a vet myself, I understand that. There are thousands of vet forums you can go to.

4) You are owed no explanation when a thread is closed. Most times, they are closed because of the rules that are outlined. Just read the rules before you post. It will save a lot of closed/deleted post. The staff does not always have time to explain a closing, especially when it was posted against the rules. You can always PM a Mod and ask them what happened if you can’t figure it out.

5) As noted in several posts above, a lot of members like the direction of the forum in keeping the content to 1911 topics. Again, there are thousands of other forums to discuss whatever you want. It just will not be here.

6) 1911 forum staff is 100% volunteer. We are not paid or compensated in any way for the work we do as noted by DSK earlier on this tread.

7) The difference between Admins and Mods is that Admins can ban members and some other minor details and Mods cannot.

8) Bottom line is this: The staff is not perfect but we try to be the best, fair and informative 1911 forum on the web. We make mistakes as does anyone else and we try to learn from them. Enjoy the forum, learn and have fun. That’s what the forum is for.

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Old 08-07-2015, 06:43 PM
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Likely. But before that happens, I would like to comment. The moderators make and enforce the rules. It's their park, and they allow us to play in it. Personally, I think the moderators on this forum do a great job of allowing polite constructive discussion while shutting down inappropriate, overly-contentious, and/or just plain dumb threads. If you disagree, you are free to go elsewhere.

FWIW, a few months ago, on another forum, I very politely disagreed with a certain well-known gun writer who posted a legal opinion that was, I believe, wrong. The moderator allowed him to respond, repeat his erroneous opinion, then chastised those who disagreed with the writer and locked the thread so that he would have the last word. I didn't complain. It's their forum, and they can do what they like. But I haven't been back, and won't post there again.
I will go with that. This site pretty much sticks to guns. Sometimes like with fergeson they let a discussion run its course before closing it. I appreciate them thinking we are big boys and that members act that way. There are lots of threads to talk about communists, socialists, liberals and so forth.

It is always interesting when censorship is brought up on forums because they are private forums and all members are quests. the thing is that a gun forum would figure to be a little more free with dissenting opinion than say a transformers and Gi Joe collectos forum.

The main thing is that the moderators do seem to be really fair. There are some forums i have seen that moderators are really all over the place on what they do. One guy will call obama a moron get in trouble. Another one will practically call him a racial slur and nothing happens.

I don't see the board getting that way and that is a good thing.

I have not been a member during an election cycle as of yet, but hopefully they will let us get some chops in.
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Old 08-07-2015, 11:40 PM
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Art, you just gave the best explanation in years. We've butted heads before, but always survived. I agree that this should be kept a 1911 forum. So why is there a Police forum here while saying there is no room for Military? I know the answer, so why not dump the PD section to be fair? Far more Military used the 1911 than PD.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:58 AM
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Tracy: Note the name of the "Police" forum:

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The 1911 in law enforcement duty. .
Note the bold type.

There are stickys there advising them to keep it on topic and while some leeway is shown (as in any other forum), the forum is moderated as are all others.
I am not going to go for the "If I can't have my way then no one else should" argument. Kept on topic, the LEO forum is fine.

Thanks for the input,
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:13 AM
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No room for military / vets but plenty of room in the 1911 forum for LEOs, knives, ARs, rifles, shotguns, revolvers. Dump one of those and provide a military / vet section.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:40 AM
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Good point. If we want this a strictly 1911 forum why are all those others even here?
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:06 AM
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It's been explained several times why not and if you can't understand that, there is nothing else I can say except that as far as I know, it is not going to happen. Feel free to use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page to send a message to the owner with your request.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:46 AM
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I simply agreed that this was the perfect place and time for an explanation for our newer members why knives, AR's, rifles, shotguns, and revolvers were considered 1911 related. A member simply asked why a military section couldn't be added since there was a police section. The answer to him was it is not 1911 related. Now I'm curious too about the other non-related forums. No insult to you Art, maybe the owner can answer this himself.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:14 AM
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What the 1911 forum Administration is saying is: This is the way it is. They have said it clearly that our 1st Amendment Rights are not welcome. They favor some more than others. They let some get away with name calling and some they do not. They allow for some elect members to embarrass, belittle, disrespect, and personally trash other members who are not in the click. The others, well, you are on your own.

This is the system and their house. If we still want to hang around here then we should put up with it. Other wise, we can go elsewhere.

I personally have given up on how hypocritical this site is, like most and go with the flow. I found out the hard way that some of the chosen here can get away with just about anything but the others are S.O.L.

I have had threads closed for no explanation. They never got off topic and somehow they were just locked. I PM a Mod but no explanation either. But I didn't know which one closed it so I probably PM'd the wrong Mod. So what do I do, PM all the admin/mods?

Is it fair, by no means is it fair. But I like some of the members and I like to read and learn from the Pistol Smiths who are a wealth of knowledge here. I like to make contacts and meet people who have the same passions as I do.

So I carry on and keep my mouth shut when I get trashed by other "Chosen Members" and do so with a smile.

Most of the problem children on the 1911 forum are found in the LE sub forum. Just saying.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:43 PM
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Mind PM'ing me with a list of the members you feel are "chosen"? We tend to give some folks a break who are otherwise long-time contributing members, but we do not allow insults or flame-baiting from anyone. That being said, remember that the moderators are human, have to enforce the rules at their discretion, and that justice isn't always delivered fairly. If you had a brother or sister growing up you should have known that already.
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Old 08-12-2015, 05:29 PM
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dsk,

Please don't be offended. It is what it is. I am just speaking the truth. I don't snitch on people. I just assume that someone is monitoring the site.
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:12 PM
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Please don't be offended. It is what it is. I am just speaking the truth. I don't snitch on people.

I just assume that someone is monitoring the site.
It's page 4 of an open thread repeatedly calling out staff decision making ,, our staff isn't easily offended.

Between their real world jobs and families , our volunteer staff does a great job of cleaning up issues as discovered . With over 10,000 active members it's physically impossible for 8-10 staff members to read every post and then read between the lines to determine if someone's feelings are hurt . To supplement the staff we have the help of many caring members also watching for trouble and using the anonymous report post function to draw our attention to perceived trouble .

You've chosen to not assist us by reporting inappropriate behavior . We'll continue to do our best .
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:30 PM
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The mods do an outstanding job here, better than any other forum I belong. I fully support closing threads when they run their course, making sure personal insults are not tolerated, keeping profanity away, etc. Outstanding work!
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