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Old 04-30-2019, 10:18 AM
Roadkill46 Roadkill46 is offline
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LW CDR beavertail.....not so hand friendly!

so i have a LOT of .45's. Not just 1911's but i have more than enough of those for my EDC rotation. they are what i carry most, but if it gets too hot here in Hell (SW AZ) i'll carry a tupperware 9mm.

My question is, i just got my first Ruger SR1911 Lightweight Commander 2 tone and although it shot 200 rounds straight out of the box flawless, i changed the grips and would love to change the beavertail as that scalloped contour is chewing up part of the web of my right hand when i shoot thumb over safety.

i know nothing is truly drop in, but what beavertail would be closest, with the normal full contour, of a drop in replacement? I think i read where it is a .250 but i have read through all of the threads i could find and cannot find a definitive answer or how it is done....well i know how to install, just not the finer points.

any help would be appreciated with links to the product if possible. here is a pic of mine with the Cool Hand grips installed. TIA for any help!!
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:13 AM
Magnumite Magnumite is offline
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I have a CMD and a full size Ruger. I tried all the tricks to get the back of that pistol more user accomodating but that wasn't successful.
Sources say the frame cut is a .250". The CMD was close to that. The full size was a conglomerate frame cut of only heaven knows.

I got a good blend with a .250" EGW (.245" actually) beavertail on the EGW.

On the CMD the fit was good with the EGW .245" radius gs.

On the full size, I got a good blend but the top of the frame was cut by Ruger just a few thousandths of an inch too far forward. When knick picking the pistol it is apparent.

In both instances the whole manner of the pistol was more pleasant. It is well worth the effort. Looking back, I would have bartered both sellers down the cost of grip safety and three hours of my labor. They are a good pistol and well worth the few extra $$$ to get them where they should be.
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Old 05-01-2019, 07:25 AM
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how much fitting did you have to do with the EGW and the Commander? and thanx for the information!!
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:33 AM
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There was a good bit of careful filing and final lapping. Most of it was already done because of the frame cut. The EGW grip safety is .245" radius, made specifically for manufacturer .250" cuts resulting in loose fit. Additionally, the EGW grip safety addresses other areas of fitting concern typically encountered with beavertail installs. All those areas addressed by EGW increase fitting effort and time. Then end result, however, is well worth it.

On the full size pistol I mentioned, a true seemless fit at the top of the frame tang radius would need a .220" EGW grip safety. But the fit I attained is acceptable and this pistol isn't receiving a big build effort on my part so I chose to leave the grip safety fit as is. I should post some pics so you can see the hobbyist results.

If you want to avoid the EGW grip safety fitting effort, or if you don't feel comfortable doing that level of fitting a Smith and Alexander would do you well. But if the cut on the frame is not right, you may need to go to a .220" S&A radius grip safety.

I like and prefer the EGW unit. I will admit to having a hankering for using the JEM grip safety, also listed on the EGW website.
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:07 PM
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pics....
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:25 AM
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very informative, i'll check out the S&A site.
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Old 05-19-2019, 02:50 PM
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I have the all steel CMDR and found the same thing, the scallops would beat up the meaty web of my hand. I called S&A and after a great conversation ordered a .250 stainless and had my gunsmith fit it for a nominal fee. What a difference it made, just as comfortable now as my Para Expert and Kimber Ultra CSE.
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