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Old 06-26-2020, 11:40 AM
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Again: Remington back in bankruptcy court

They're filing for bankruptcy for the second time in three years. They can say anything they want as to how they got in this mess, but the fact that they produced garbage for the past 10 years certainly hasn't helped.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...Dmj?li=BBnbfcL

It's just a shame knowing how many other acquired brands they're going to drag under with them.
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Old 06-26-2020, 11:52 AM
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Thats sad.


The M700, 1100 & 870 have always been guns I've enjoyed.
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Old 06-26-2020, 11:54 AM
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"The Connecticut Supreme Court last year said that while the families couldnít sue Remington for merely selling the Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle used in the shooting, they could proceed on allegations the company improperly marketed the weapon to civilians for use in military-style combat against perceived enemies."


Wut?
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Old 06-26-2020, 02:09 PM
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Good on the Navajo Nation. Hopefully they can acquire it and raise the quality control standards. The brand sorely needs it.
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Old 06-26-2020, 02:27 PM
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Remington was acquired, loaded up with debt, and now will go bankrupt while the Wall Street bandits made their millions.

It doesn't help that Remington can't find their way out of a hole in the ground.

They bought Para, built one run of pistols then dropped the line. Those double stack 1911 pistols weren't bad quality and sold quite well. The used market for them is silly stupid.

Then there's the R51 debacle and the way they damn near killed Marlin.

The company was being run solely to generate cash for the bandits.
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Old 06-26-2020, 04:32 PM
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The R51 makes me so sad. I want to like the gun. But they messed it up so badly it's not funny. Just slap a steel frame on it Remington, I'll buy one and make the damn thing work.
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Old 06-26-2020, 04:52 PM
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Sad, they'll drag Marlin down with them! 😭It took several years before Marlins were decient guns again.
Well Henry is still with us.
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Old 06-26-2020, 04:56 PM
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They also killed H&R Handi rifles just as many states were allowing straight walled cartridges for deer hunting.
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Old 06-26-2020, 05:06 PM
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Big business sometimes forget who they are and what they do. This is what happens when there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians. In the name of greed, you take a great product and slash the costs to produce it and end up with a crap product that nobody wants. It's hard to feel sorry for them. Especially since this is a pattern with Remington. Too bad because my favorite rifle is a 700 and my favorite shotgun is a Wingmaster.
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:34 PM
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"The Connecticut Supreme Court last year said that while the families couldn’t sue Remington for merely selling the Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle used in the shooting, they could proceed on allegations the company improperly marketed the weapon to civilians for use in military-style combat against perceived enemies."


Wut?
Wait until car companies get sued because their marketing encourages people to speed or to take winding roads too fast. Because we know responsibility rests with the money-grubbing company, not the end user.
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Old 06-26-2020, 10:16 PM
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Thats sad.


The M700, 1100 & 870 have always been guns I've enjoyed.
My first big game hunt, a 10-day safari in the RSA at age 53 along with my 11 year old son, was an experience of a lifetime. The Remington 700 5-R that we took on that hunt is a heirloom and momento, irreplaceable. But in Ď14(?) Remington recalled the trigger; I had the rifle packed to send back and decided, ďNo, Iíll replace the trigger myself.Ē ... not really believing the trigger had a real problem. Replaced the trigger group with a Timney.

Now very glad that I did:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=1017280

For all that these two Remington rifles, a M700 and M600, are extraordinarily accurate: firing on disengaging the safety means no more Remingtons for me. No P-Os either.
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Old 06-26-2020, 11:34 PM
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The only Remington I had ever bought was the Viper .22LR rifle back in the early 1990s.
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Old 06-27-2020, 12:05 AM
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Good on the Navajo Nation. Hopefully they can acquire it and raise the quality control standards. The brand sorely needs it.
Screw them. they want to use profits off of this to fund "smart guns." They also want to kill off all black rifle production to the commercial market for the sake of virtue signaling (the thing everyone accused Colt of doing a few months back that ended up being just a rumor).

Remington has been a rotting corpse ever since Dupont let go of them, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe this will put them out of their misery. We've got Mossberg for pump shotguns, Ruger for 22lr rifles, and a plethora of bolt gun and handgun makers for everything else. Remington ceasing to exist doesn't make much of a difference at this point.
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Darn it, and I planned on purchasing a tactical V3 this year. Oh well, guess I'll look somewhere else.
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My first big game hunt, a 10-day safari in the RSA at age 53 along with my 11 year old son, was an experience of a lifetime. The Remington 700 5-R that we took on that hunt is a heirloom and momento, irreplaceable. But in ‘14(?) Remington recalled the trigger; I had the rifle packed to send back and decided, “No, I’ll replace the trigger myself.” ... not really believing the trigger had a real problem. Replaced the trigger group with a Timney.

Now very glad that I did:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=1017280

For all that these two Remington rifles, a M700 and M600, are extraordinarily accurate: firing on disengaging the safety means no more Remingtons for me. No P-Os either.
I will never, ever, ever give up my walker triggers. The absolute best factory trigger ever made, I've got at least 5 rifles with that trigger. Fully adjustable, it's like an aftermarket trigger, it's a thing of beauty. If it's firing when it shouldn't, then it needs to be adjusted. Simple turn of the sear engagement screw will fix it.
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Old 06-27-2020, 05:06 AM
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I like my R51...I think its cute when the magazine falls to the ground when I pull the trigger.
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Screw them. they want to use profits off of this to fund "smart guns." They also want to kill off all black rifle production to the commercial market for the sake of virtue signaling (the thing everyone accused Colt of doing a few months back that ended up being just a rumor).

Remington has been a rotting corpse ever since Dupont let go of them, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe this will put them out of their misery. We've got Mossberg for pump shotguns, Ruger for 22lr rifles, and a plethora of bolt gun and handgun makers for everything else. Remington ceasing to exist doesn't make much of a difference at this point.
Well, if that's the route they go with it I'll write them off, as I had written off Colt once upon a time. I mean if they wanted to fund 'smart guns' they'd be better off taking just a portion of that 775 million it will take to acquire Remington, and develop a gun. See how it performs. Buying Remington to fund their goofy project will only fail when they stop making the rifles that sell the best, and people that would buy those - as well as other firearms if they cleaned up the failures and safety issues - boycott the manufacturer and they end up making no profit.
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Old 06-27-2020, 09:20 AM
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This just echoes the same story as the last years of the Obozo occupation.
Coming off probably six years of the highest sales on record, and these asshats canít turn the ship around. Now, sales are nuts again and they pull the plug.
Well, I certainly wonít miss seeing that awful ammo on the shelves. Letís hope that someone picks up a few of the casualties and resurrects the names such as Marlin.
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Old 06-27-2020, 10:53 AM
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So sad, I bought my 1st Rem 700 over 40 years ago and a number of them since then. They all are good shooters. Looks like they lost their vision at some point.
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Old 06-27-2020, 02:28 PM
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So sad, I bought my 1st Rem 700 over 40 years ago and a number of them since then. They all are good shooters. Looks like they lost their vision at some point.
Happens almost every time a company changes hands. New management typically has a different vision and direction from the old management. Sometimes that's a good thing, often times it's to the detriment of the company.

Edit: I'm still holding out hope it turns out to be a net positive for Remington, it would be a shame to see one of the country's oldest manufacturers fold due to mismanagement.
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Screw them. they want to use profits off of this to fund "smart guns." They also want to kill off all black rifle production to the commercial market for the sake of virtue signaling (the thing everyone accused Colt of doing a few months back that ended up being just a rumor).

Remington has been a rotting corpse ever since Dupont let go of them, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe this will put them out of their misery. We've got Mossberg for pump shotguns, Ruger for 22lr rifles, and a plethora of bolt gun and handgun makers for everything else. Remington ceasing to exist doesn't make much of a difference at this point.
Remington hasn't been in the AR market for a few months now.
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Remington hasn't been in the AR market for a few months now.
The R15, and R10 (a rebranded DPMS G2) is still listed on their website. Though they did nuke the Bushmaster and DPMS websites in January. I think the glut of cheap PSA, S&W, and Ruger guns killed the market for Remington's brands.
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Bushmaster and DPMS were doing just fine before Remington/Cerberus gobbled them up. Like somebody said in another thread, maybe Windham Weaponry will be able to buy their old name back after this.
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They can say anything they want as to how they got in this mess, but the fact that they produced garbage for the past 10 years certainly hasn't helped.

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Old 06-27-2020, 06:36 PM
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When Remington acquired Marlin, didn’t they kinda crap on the original Marlin employees?
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