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Old 12-06-2019, 09:31 AM
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Brass scrounging observations

I shoot exclusively outdoors at a membership range.
There is always brass lying around for the taking.
Here are some observations:

* It seems like no one collects 9mm or 223 brass anymore, almost cheaper to buy than reload
* 45 ACP shooters collect their brass
* 357 sig scarce as hens teeth, same with 10 mm
* 40 caliber is about dead
* Hardly ever see 380 brass anymore
* 300 blackout coming on strong, with lots of factory brass for the picking
* 6.5 creedmore brass all over, as much as 308 and more than 30-06
* 338 lapua mag must be too heavy to pick up, it gets left lying

I reload what I use, swap, sell or scrap the rest.

What trends are you seeing?
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:30 AM
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I shoot all my weapons in the outback, pick up all my brass for reloading later. Most of what is left there by the cretins is usually Blazer aluminum pistol and steel 7.62x39 ChiCom crap.

BUT.....your observations are quite interesting and informative; thanks for posting.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:35 AM
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I also shoot at a private membership outdoor range. Mine hosts frequent 3-gun and USPSA shoots, and after the matches I see:

* Plenty of 9mm and 223/556 brass just like you do
* A pretty fair amount of 45 ACP brass, but not as much as the two above
* 10mm and 357 Sig brass pretty much non-existent
* A small amount of 40 brass and slightly less 380 ACP brass
* Haven't been to the bays for tactical rifle for a while, nothing to observe there for me
* Plenty of shotgun hulls laying around
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:52 AM
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My club range has little on the ground but aluminum and steel.
Nothing brass lasts very long before it is picked up.

The rental ranges graciously allow me to pick up my own cases but sweep up the rest for scrap value.
One place offered buckets of mixed brass for sale but had few takers. One offered me a good deal on sorted brass but never followed through.

The range for Indoor USPSA is my main source for pistol brass. There are three of us out of 12 - 20 shooters who bother to scoop it up. Mostly 9mm but that is what I shoot the most of, so that is ok.

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Old 12-06-2019, 11:22 AM
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Pretty much the same as the OP.
I'm really careful about the 45 brass I find because the spp brass doesn't play well in the dillon.
Too bad I am not a huge fan of 9mm. It's everywhere!
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:53 AM
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At my membership club the conventional pistol, rifle and shotgun ranges are pretty clean, everybody cleans up after themselves. The exception is in front of the line/benches at the conventional pistol range there's a lot of brass because people I guess don't want to go cold just to pick up brass, I do at the end of my day but usually not many people there if any. Ahead of the line you find lots of different caliber brass.
The action bays are a different story, like 15 bays and a sea of brass, mostly as you can imagine 9mm and 5.56 but a decent amount of 40 and 45. You can't shoot rifle at the action ranges except for official matches and the Sheriff's and PD's train there almost every day of the week so maybe that explains the 5.56. Even there everyone seems to pick up there shotgun hulls. Well, the shotgun ranges are very clean, everyone picks up there hulls and dumps it in the provided trash cans.
I pick up my brass, at the action ranges I just pick an area where I think it is and pick up some, usually come home with 2-3x what I shot, or as long as I can stand bending over, but I'm not going to sort it out there.
I think there must be scroungers though because even in the action bays they sometimes get pretty picked up, well except for the steel and aluminum.
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:01 PM
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I shoot at an "unimproved range" outside a small town. Yep, 9mm and .223/556 are common and depending on the weather brass on the ground is often plentiful. Next is 38 Special and occasionally a 45 ACP, 380 but very rarely a 44 or 357 Magnum case or any "hunting caliber" cases. I will pick up all my brass and often all I can find that can be reloaded, even if I don't reload that cartridge (I recently gave away 300, 40 S&W cases).
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:53 PM
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The reason 9mm is everywhere is so much of it is shot, not that it does not get picked up. There is lots of .40 at competition ranges but not nearly as much as 9. It just depends on the type shooting done at that particular range. SASS picks up all their brass so I never find .38 or .45 colt or any of the oddball cowboy calibers.

Edit to add. Remington sometimes tests where I shoot. When they do, there is a pile of whatever they are testing. Or bags of shotgun hulls.

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Old 12-06-2019, 02:16 PM
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* It seems like no one collects 9mm or 223 brass anymore, almost cheaper to buy than reload <--Yes
* 45 ACP shooters collect their brass <--I am the only one
* 357 sig scarce as hens teeth, same with 10 mm <--Yes
* 40 caliber is about dead <---Nope. I see lots of .40cal lying on the ground. I pick them up.
* Hardly ever see 380 brass anymore <---Too small to even pay attention to

What trends are you seeing?
These are mine from my weekly shooting at an indoor range.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:20 PM
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Here are some observations:

* It seems like no one collects 9mm or 223 brass anymore, almost cheaper to buy than reload
* 45 ACP shooters collect their brass
* 357 sig scarce as hens teeth, same with 10 mm
* 40 caliber is about dead
* Hardly ever see 380 brass anymore
* 300 blackout coming on strong, with lots of factory brass for the picking
* 6.5 creedmore brass all over, as much as 308 and more than 30-06
* 338 lapua mag must be too heavy to pick up, it gets left lying

....

What trends are you seeing?
I concur with your observations. Once upon a time, the brass vultures would scrape the ground clean. Now, there's 9mm all over the place. As for the .40, yes, outside of competition, it's dying a protracted death of sorts. The .380 is nowhere near as common as it once was a while back.

The .338 Lapua people are just too 'well-heeled' to be bothered with picking up brass!!! Unless, of course, they brought Geeves along for the day.

And, as for the .45 Colt... nowhere to be found. DRAT!!!!!
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:13 PM
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The reason 9mm is everywhere is so much of it is shot, not that it does not get picked up
Both reasons are correct. Many more 9mms are fired and less is picked up to reload. I have noticed many newer shooters use a 9mm and purchase ammo, and leave the empties because they don't reload...
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:49 PM
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I shoot at an outdoor rang. Tons of 9 and 223/5.56. I pick up a fair amount of 45 , 40 and 38 with an occasional 357. Last weekend there was a pile of 308 I think I picked up close to 50 and I don't even have a rifle that shoots that . Probably use it for trade.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:24 PM
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I’ve actually seen a big resurgence of .380 brass at our outdoor range, makes it kind of a pain when picking up the 9mm. Also quite a bit of .40, too. Checked my surplus brass and I have over 6,000 .40 cases and I no longer shoot and never did reload it. May just cash it in for scrap one of these days.

If I find an extra 10 .45 cases l feel like it is a good day.
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Old 12-07-2019, 10:06 PM
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A lot more brass laying around at the one range I go to...not much .45 ACP except that aluminum junk, lots of 9 and .40.

All manners of rifle brass, much of it in the usual deer rifle calibers right now. Sometimes there's a fair amount of something I can use. I can't believe that people aren't reloading for 6.5 CM but I always come home with more than I left with.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:15 AM
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The reason 9mm is everywhere is so much of it is shot, not that it does not get picked up. There is lots of .40 at competition ranges but not nearly as much as 9. It just depends on the type shooting done at that particular range. SASS picks up all their brass so I never find .38 or .45 colt or any of the oddball cowboy calibers.

Edit to add. Remington sometimes tests where I shoot. When they do, there is a pile of whatever they are testing. Or bags of shotgun hulls.
Im sure you meant to say “there was a pile of duds from what they were testing”!
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:23 AM
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I suppose....the vast amount of newb shooters that just grabbed a plastic 9mm and/or the $450 AR that was on sale are the ones responsible for the mess that comes from mega packs of ammo from WalMart. The more discerning 45, 44mag & 357 shooters either reload, or are a bit more conscious about etiquette at the range!
I make fun of this, but there is some truth to it! Slobs, that leave empty boxes and targets blowing around. They could at least shoot brass cases instead of steel and aluminum. Pick up after yourself dammit!!

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Old 12-08-2019, 08:41 AM
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I shoot mainly at a private club. I don’t reload. Shooters are supposed to police themselves, but obviously some don’t. There are few reloaders and i separate and save some rifle 6.5cm, 308 for my friend. The rest goes in the scrap bucket. Ive sent some 270 brass to a fellow forum member. Rimfire, steel and aluminum cases never seem to get picked up.

My laundry list of calibers:

17 HMR, 22lr, 9mm, 38 sp, 38 super, 357, 45 acp, 22-250, 5.56, 270 win, 6.5CM, 308

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Old 12-08-2019, 10:29 AM
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I just finished doing brass "pre-sorting" at our private club here in Virginia. We have about a 1/2 ton of brass in 5 gallon cans that need to be roughly sorted by size/caliber before being hand-sorted. The pre-sorting just eliminates the aluminum and steel cases - of which there is a lot of 9mm. 45 ACP, 5.56 mm and 7.62x39mm. Ultimately, a lot of this brass will be sold to club members who reload - priced by the pound. The rest will end up with a local scrap metal dealer. Unfortunately, we haven't found any ammo "re-manufacturer" who's willing to pick brass up here - even at a very low price.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:13 AM
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".45 ACP shooters collect their brass" Yup. They always have - since the beginning of time. I remember filling buckets from a 55 gal. drum of military surplus brass. Boy, those were the days.......
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:03 AM
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Funny how that works....
They just seem too significant to leave lying there on the ground!
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:20 PM
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I find mostly 9mm, 223 and 40 S&W in that order. Mostly what I call "Black Gun Cartridges". Next is probably 380 and then a few 45 acp. Before and during deer season I'll start finding rifle cases. In addition to the classic cartridges the Creedmoors and 300BO's are showing up. A few WSM's. I hardly ever find 38, 357, 44, 45 Colt, 10mm or 38 Super.

I occasionally still find a 7 or 8mm Mauser, a 303 British or a 7.7 Jap. More rarely a 45-70, 35 Remington or sometimes a 32 Winchester.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:26 PM
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Im sure you meant to say “there was a pile of duds from what they were testing”!
Testing guns not ammo, all different brands
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:06 PM
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I find very little brass at our club range, except for 22LR, which nobody seems to even take time to sweep up. I shoot a lot of 38 Super, and for sure I'm picking that stuff up! But actually I pick up all my brass, including 9mm and 380. Always have.

If I find any "stray" brass at all it's usually 9mm though. Which doesn't surprise me and is in line with what y'all are seeing. Don't find any rifle brass at all, of any caliber. I police all my rifle brass as well.
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:33 PM
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The only brass I leave is stuff I would NOT want to use again.

I have .45 ACP cases the logo is barely readable in.

For the most part they are hardened enough on the case mouth enough that you will get a descent amount of cracking.
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:04 PM
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The only brass I leave is stuff I would NOT want to use again.

I have .45 ACP cases the logo is barely readable in.

For the most part they are hardened enough on the case mouth enough that you will get a descent amount of cracking.
I reject brass prior to reloading, throw it in the scrap bucket to sell by the pound.
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