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Old 03-17-2020, 12:36 PM
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I just heard that Pa PICS went down due to "technical issues" and the NG is mobilizing before being activated. Anyone hear the same?
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:21 PM
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I just heard that Pa PICS went down due to "technical issues" and the NG is mobilizing before being activated. Anyone hear the same?
I'll assume "NG" is National Guard.

I don't know what a "Pa PICS" is.
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:23 PM
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I'll assume "NG" is National Guard.

I don't know what a "Pa PICS" is.
Pennsylvania Instant Check System - PICS
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:27 PM
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:33 PM
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This was posted by a dealer at another site, I'm sure the Federal NICS as well as individual state like PA are swamped. I didn't know individual states have their own homegrown version.

Got this from NICS:




Good Morning,

As the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Section works through the impact of the COVID-19 operationally, we are working to maintain our services. We are aware that states may be considering options to protect the health and safety of their employees, which may include a reduction in office availability or even closure to some offices.

Should a state choose to limit their days of operation or close state offices, this could potentially impact the Brady Transfer Date (BTD) by changing the time in which an FFL can legally transfer a firearm in a delayed status. The NICS Section urges FFLs to be cognizant of the impact this may have to your day-to-day operations, and also to stress the importance of adhering to the BTD that is provided to you at the time a transaction is put into a Delay status. The Brady Act does not federally prohibit an FFL from transferring a firearm after the third business day expires, even if the NICS Section has been unable to provide a proceed response, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1).

We appreciate your patience and partnership during this critical time and potential impact to NICS operations.

NICS Business Relations Team
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:42 PM
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^ Thanks for this.

My son works P/T at a small shop south of Lancaster city. He said there were 60 people waiting for NICS/PICs checks by the time they closed at 6pm Sunday. The system may well have been over loaded.

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Old 03-17-2020, 02:24 PM
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I just heard that Pa PICS went down due to "technical issues" and the NG is mobilizing before being activated. Anyone hear the same?
Why would the NG be mobilized? Not much different than the internet crashing for a couple hours.....sounds like more panic hype.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:33 PM
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Why would the NG be mobilized? Not much different than the internet crashing for a couple hours.....sounds like more panic hype.
I think those are two separate issues. Some states are mobilizing the National Guard to help with testing logistics, distribution of items, etc.

The NICS and related criminal check systems may just be bogged down because of high demand plus compounded by the fact that the agencies doing the background checks may be understaffed because employees are staying home.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:41 PM
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PolymerMan ------------- No way. What you are saying is both LIKELY and LOGICAL.

That has no place here!

You must craft your conclusions to suit the audience. Here's how:

The NICS problem is based on a Lefty Conspiracy to destroy the 2A in preparation for a socialist takeover.

And the National Guard is being deployed as muscle to enforce this dastardly agenda.

There ya go------- That's how it's done!

Your reasonable explanation was way out of line, Buddy
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:52 PM
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Why would the NG be mobilized? Not much different than the internet crashing for a couple hours.....sounds like more panic hype.
I think those are two separate issues. Some states are mobilizing the National Guard to help with testing logistics, distribution of items, etc.

The NICS and related criminal check systems may just be bogged down because of high demand plus compounded by the fact that the agencies doing the background checks may be understaffed because employees are staying home.
Apologies if I read your initial post as if the NICS going down had something to do with the guard.......

Yes, I think the NG will be called up in a lot of states in coming weeks.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:55 PM
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PolymerMan ------------- No way. What you are saying is both LIKELY and LOGICAL.

That has no place here!

You must craft your conclusions to suit the audience. Here's how:

The NICS problem is based on a Lefty Conspiracy to destroy the 2A in preparation for a socialist takeover.

And the National Guard is being deployed as muscle to enforce this dastardly agenda.

There ya go------- That's how it's done!

Your reasonable explanation was way out of line, Buddy [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Easy now pard......😊
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:15 PM
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This was posted by a dealer at another site, I'm sure the Federal NICS as well as individual state like PA are swamped. I didn't know individual states have their own homegrown version.

Got this from NICS:




Good Morning,

As the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Section works through the impact of the COVID-19 operationally, we are working to maintain our services. We are aware that states may be considering options to protect the health and safety of their employees, which may include a reduction in office availability or even closure to some offices.

Should a state choose to limit their days of operation or close state offices, this could potentially impact the Brady Transfer Date (BTD) by changing the time in which an FFL can legally transfer a firearm in a delayed status. The NICS Section urges FFLs to be cognizant of the impact this may have to your day-to-day operations, and also to stress the importance of adhering to the BTD that is provided to you at the time a transaction is put into a Delay status. The Brady Act does not federally prohibit an FFL from transferring a firearm after the third business day expires, even if the NICS Section has been unable to provide a proceed response, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 922(t)(1).

We appreciate your patience and partnership during this critical time and potential impact to NICS operations.

NICS Business Relations Team
Even though I retired last year I'm still on the email list for notifications. I got the same email. The system is just overloaded like the 2012 scare.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:21 PM
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Why would the National Guard be mobilizing?
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Old 03-17-2020, 07:22 PM
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Why would the National Guard be mobilizing?
Toilet paper distribution system?????
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:08 PM
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I figured that it was something like that.

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PolymerMan ------------- No way. What you are saying is both LIKELY and LOGICAL.

That has no place here!

You must craft your conclusions to suit the audience. Here's how:

The NICS problem is based on a Lefty Conspiracy to destroy the 2A in preparation for a socialist takeover.

And the National Guard is being deployed as muscle to enforce this dastardly agenda.

There ya go------- That's how it's done!
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:57 PM
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I heard from a guy at work that a friend of his saw on the news that the virus cells are so large because they contain nano-bots that, once the body dies, they re-animate the corpse and it can be controlled using satellite signals from Bejing.

And if you believe that you owe me a case of toilet paper and some name brand hand sanitizer.
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:59 PM
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Well, yeah. Duh!
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Old 03-17-2020, 09:03 PM
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Why would the National Guard be mobilizing?
About all they can do is put up numerous tents to serve as emergency care units should the hospitals get overwhelmed.

I do like the toilet paper distribution system though. Very catchy for the NG.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:37 PM
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Monday at my LGS, the background checks were taking over 44 hours.
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Old 03-18-2020, 12:45 AM
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And here I am trying to purchase my first firearm.

This really sucks. I can feel it happening that at any given moment. i am really going to go postal and start smacking people over the head with my parasol.
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Old 03-18-2020, 07:20 AM
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Monday at my LGS, the background checks were taking over 44 hours.
Interesting. All of our NICS checks went through normally yesterday. Less that 10 seconds for most folks once we hit the "submit" button.
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Old 03-18-2020, 09:18 AM
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I looked a lever action rifle last Saturday here in Colorado & was told I would not be able to take it home with me, over a thousand applications in que at CBI with 17 hour wait. I’m not used to having a waiting period, usually +/- 15 minutes to go through. So I didn’t make an impulse purchase that day & got to do some serious research on the gun & went ahead & bought it yesterday. Should be able to pick up tomorrow & have zero buyers remorse. Backlog was even worse yesterday & likely not to get any better in the near future.
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Old 03-18-2020, 09:43 AM
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PolymerMan ------------- No way. What you are saying is both LIKELY and LOGICAL.

That has no place here!

You must craft your conclusions to suit the audience. Here's how:

The NICS problem is based on a Lefty Conspiracy to destroy the 2A in preparation for a socialist takeover.

And the National Guard is being deployed as muscle to enforce this dastardly agenda.

There ya go------- That's how it's done!

Your reasonable explanation was way out of line, Buddy
I was thinking along the same lines. Another way to hold up sales and possession of firearms.
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Old 03-18-2020, 11:18 AM
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https://www.airforcemag.com/nearly-7...ight-covid-19/
A total of 670 National Guard members from 15 states have been activated as of the morning of March 16 in support of their states’ responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to the National Guard Bureau.
Any state that declares a state of emergency is authorized to call up its state’s Guard troops, according to an NGB release.
Air and Army Guardsmen are supporting the following COVID-19 missions:
• Drive-through testing facilities
• Response liaisons and support to state Emergency Operations Centers
• Support to healthcare professionals
• Logistics support
• Assisting with disinfecting/cleaning of common public spaces
• Providing transportation support for health care providers
• Collecting and delivering samples
• Assisting with sample administration.

The Guard is being used to help with the virus and have nothing to do with the NICS.

There are other times when certain leftist in our government are up to no good and anyone who thinks that is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory has really not been paying attention for the past 3 or 4 years.
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