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Old 12-05-2019, 05:28 PM
Fishman33 Fishman33 is offline
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Next Purchase in NJ

I have been going around in circles about my next purchase because I live in NJ. I have a Colt xse Govt and recently bought a Wesson PM9. I have one more permit to burn. In NJ you have to apply for a permit to purchase, wait for it to be granted - then you have 90 days to use it. So I applied for two at one time.

Conceptually with two full size 1911’s I started to look at some plastic guns - Walther ppq , HK Vp9 etc in a 4” size. Then I concluded with NJ’s 10 round mag limit - why buy a high cap 9mm that I can’t use as intended? It’s like having a 500hp car that the government requires to be de tuned to 200hp.

I then started looking at concealable sized pistols imagining that I could carry somewhere. You used to be able to get a VA permit as a non resident and carry in nearby PA but PA has put an end to that. Maybe could conceal in a SHTF situation but that is not a real justification for me.

So I think I have come full circle back to the 1911. Can’t carry it so who cares how big it is, holds 9-10 with no unused capacity, I like them and have been shooting them for years.

So I guess my point is - 1911’s and New Jersey- perfect together!
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:01 PM
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I will support any reason (or excuse) to have a 1911.

In your situation I'd have one of mine be a vintage Colt.
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:15 PM
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Another 1911 is fine obviously. Check out Guncrafter or Wilson if that’s the route you wanna go.
The possibilities are ‘almost’ endless, even in our commieland NJ..My one poly gun is a VP9 and I shoot it a lot. I put the long slide kit on it...����. Look into a nice revolver or 22 LR Rimfire (Volquartsen scorpion) .
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:27 PM
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Yaaay for the 1911, a LW Colt Commander .45 ACP!
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:16 PM
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You could put that money towards moving expenses and get the heck out of NJ

I got out in 94. Best thing I ever did.
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:31 AM
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I have the PPQ 9 and PPQ 45, both in 10 rounds now (yep, NJ), they are both outstanding pistol's and I can highly recommend them for their amazing trigger's and ergonomics and accuracy, all for $450 each (these are designed as carry guns, I use them on my night stand). Only thing I would add is a thumb safety of some kind.

Really comes down to the intention of the gun and how much you want to spend. If you just want a top-notch range blaster at a good price, look at the PPQ 9 - but with the Q5-match-trim (which means a 5" slide rather than 4", competition sights, and optics ready, and a somewhat higher price). It has been put to the test professionally, an is a Championship Gun.

I am likely going to upgrade my PPQ9 to the Q5, Walther sells the slide separately. I think I'll get it as a Christmas present. The 4" shoots great, but of course, the 5" will shoot even better.

If you already have 2 1911's, a top performing plastic may be the way to go.
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:39 AM
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Great choice, stupid reasons for making you go full circle. Now I’ll be mad about that all day! Thanks buddy!
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:51 AM
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Fishman33, I’m thinking you’re going to need more purchase permits...
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:58 AM
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If he applies for another one, there will be a non descript van parked outside with antennas all over it! The engine will be left running!
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:08 AM
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If he applies for another one, there will be a non descript van parked outside with antennas all over it! The engine will be left running!
Lol...nah!You can put up to 6 purchase permits on one application..completely legal.
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Old 12-06-2019, 08:24 AM
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I don't miss the NJ permit process. Here in OH I show my ccw, fill out the 4473 and leave. The big box stores like Cabelas and Rural King still do the nics even if you have a ccw. 15 minutes is better than what NJ makes you do.


OP adding another 1911 is never a bad choice.

Sorry for the anti NJ rants. Growing up in Jersey (exit 11 ) had some good memories and I know packing up and moving is easier said then done. Just remember once you move you will never get good pizza again. The crap they sell here in OH is like tomato paste on a bagel.
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Old 12-06-2019, 09:23 AM
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Lol...nah!You can put up to 6 purchase permits on one application..completely legal.
You can actually get as many as you want. If your local PD is restricting you to six they are doing so illegally. The AG or NJSP/FIU even sent out a letter to the local PD's telling them they cannot restrict the number of permits applied for.

Why apply for multiple permits when you you have an OGAM (One Gun A Month) law on the books? Because you can apply for a Multiple Purchase Exemption and you still need one permit per gun. I am currently waiting for my fourth exemption to come through and will be picking up four guns when it does.

OP - If you already have two 1911's consider a nice S&W revolver. There is the ubiquitous 686, but since one of your 1911's is a .45, I'd recommend that you look into a 625 since you wouldn't have to stock a new caliber. BTW, your purchase permit can be extended to 180 days from the date of issue, at the discretion of the CLEO of the issuing agency.

625's




Good luck with whatever you decide.

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Old 12-06-2019, 10:15 AM
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How about a nice wheel gun or something optic ready? So much to choose from, best of luck.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:08 AM
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Stay away from the 625-8....it has the dreaded Hillary Hole!
Dumbest eyesore ever! I won’t buy another new wheeler from them until that goes away!
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:26 AM
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Stay away from the 625-8....it has the dreaded Hillary Hole!
Dumbest eyesore ever! I won’t buy another new wheeler from them until that goes away!

It always amazes me that people will deny themselves some of the best guns that S&W has ever produced because of that stupid internal lock.

If it is anathema to you, simply deactivate it - takes about 15 minutes. If the hole is aesthetically displeasing there are plugs to fill it.

That 625-8 PC above is a competition gun for me and, conservatively, has 20 - 30K rounds through it - and yes the lock is disabled. I collect S&W revolvers and, honestly, I have no idea how many of my wheelguns have the lock and how many don't, because I just don't care. Likewise for the use of MIM.

Those that deny themselves a fine revolver because it has the lock, are just leaving more for me.

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Old 12-07-2019, 04:25 PM
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Fishman- Since you like1911's - here is a tip- go on Fusion firearms website and look at their 1911a. You can get fully completed guns or customize to your hearts content. I bought a kit and completed it myself . Awesome gun. (mm, 10 mm, or 45 cal. take your pick.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:55 AM
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Pizza,
I have my share of very nice NON defaced Smiths. Say what you will, a person shouldn’t have to “plug” an obvious blemish. Stupid idea that many besides myself find utterly unattractive. Future values will prove a higher demand for the non defaced Smiths. Especially if they ditch the idea, then it will be like the AMF of the Harley era.......
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:27 PM
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If you want to go plastic and slightly small but still a great gun with a good grip I love my H&K P30sk. I will admit that I am a H&K fan. I like the hammer as opposed to the VP type. Just a personal decision. The S&W 625 is also a great revolver although not something I would normally carry.

Unless they have made a change in the last two years the NH non resident permit was still good in PA although I know they have been eliminating a lot of the non resident permits.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:09 PM
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Why not get yourself a nice revolver?

I left the Peoples Republic of New Jersey in 1979 and moved to Montana, never regretted it.

WHERE can a guy even BUY in Jersey now. So many of the old shops are gone. And the local municipalities have regulated the remaining ones to death. No primers or smokeless powder on premises, etc.

The rare time when I drive back I bring all sorts of stuff back for a handful of friends there who reload , shoot and hunt. Sad situation. Despite the ridiculous Laws at least they still have the best pizza.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:10 PM
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Stay away from the 625-8....it has the dreaded Hillary Hole!
Dumbest eyesore ever! I won’t buy another new wheeler from them until that goes away!
That's YOUR decision... And a silly one at that.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:24 PM
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I understand your dilemma. I have a permit burning a hole in my desk right now. I have always wanted an N frame. Model 29 or 57 w/o the lock! Only issue is the prices for them are pretty steep here in NJ. Good luck on your search.
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Old 12-11-2019, 03:21 PM
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I understand your dilemma. I have a permit burning a hole in my desk right now. I have always wanted an N frame. Model 29 or 57 w/o the lock! Only issue is the prices for them are pretty steep here in NJ. Good luck on your search.
Very timely post since i just bought a mint 1980 production 29-2. As the story goes, “looks factory fired only”. Regardless, its very nice and i cant wait to get it dirty... Heres a peek..
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Old 12-11-2019, 05:21 PM
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Very timely post since i just bought a mint 1980 production 29-2. As the story goes, “looks factory fired only”. Regardless, its very nice and i cant wait to get it dirty... Heres a peek..
You're killing me!
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:39 PM
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You're killing me!
Nah,,,,just a motivating friendly nudge...
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Old 12-12-2019, 07:45 AM
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Very nice!
Pre-Lint collector!!
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