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Old 01-18-2004, 12:54 PM
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Thanks for the info on the Sistema...by your serial number info, mine is a 1949 model with the markings as noted on the photo..."Policia de los Territorios Nacionales"??? Some form of state police?
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:05 AM
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BOP222, I have the same markings as yours on my Sistema and am serial number 53380. Very close-same batch/shipment I'd think.
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:42 PM
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S. KELLY, Man, I guess those are close...had mine at the indoor range today up in Sioux Falls..(little brisk to be shooting outside today) I had a local smith "tune" the Sistema awhile back and this was the first chance I had to fire it...after adding Chip McCormick FLGR and thumb safety, a Brownells extended slide stop, Clark beavertail safety and LPA white outline adjustable rear sights, shot like a dream. Put around 300 rounds of basic ball ammo through it...seems the GI mags feed better. Tried using a Chip McCormick Star...it fed ok but would not lock back after the last round.
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:07 PM
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Markings

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Old 10-02-2004, 03:07 AM
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Grips and Magazines

Does anyone know where I could get grips for my Sistema? It has a serial number range of 63xxx, and there are what looks like Colt aftermarket grips on the gun.

A couple of original magazines might be nice, although I think that I will use the Cobramags for carry use.

This is a really neat gun!

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Old 10-05-2004, 01:46 PM
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Argentine 1911A1

Right side of slide POLICIA DE LA PROVINCIA DE BUENOS AIRES 733XX
Left side of slideD.G.F.M-[F.M.A.P.]
Top of slide 733XX
Right side behind serrations in small letters ?PING.GDS.EXP
RUTHERFORDTON,N.C.
Frame 733XX
Barrel Hood Colt 45 AUTO also handscribed number 6136
ANY INFO on this one?
THANKS
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:47 PM
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Right side of slide POLICIA DE LA PROVINCIA DE BUENOS AIRES 733XX
Left side of slideD.G.F.M-[F.M.A.P.]
Top of slide 733XX
Right side behind serrations in small letters ?PING.GDS.EXP
RUTHERFORDTON,N.C.
Frame 733XX
Barrel Hood Colt 45 AUTO also handscribed number 6136
ANY INFO on this one?
THANKS
Looks like 1952 (same as mine), yet made for Provencial Police rather than the military.

The small letters are importer markings.

How does it shoot?
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Old 10-05-2004, 03:00 PM
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Shoot

Don't know,just got it today.Have stripped it down and got it soaking in "ED's RED"
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Old 10-05-2004, 03:21 PM
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Argentine 1911a1

I read on a post that all barrels were not serial numbered to match the pistol when new. Some were but not all.Mine is not!
On the ones that were,was the number stamped? Mine has a number hand scribed on the barrel hood
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Old 10-05-2004, 03:40 PM
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Ken,
Where did you acquire yours? How much did it cost you (if you are willing to say)?
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:48 PM
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Argentine 1911A1

Gunshop-----$254.43 out the door
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:05 PM
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I read on a post that all barrels were not serial numbered to match the pistol when new. Some were but not all.Mine is not!
On the ones that were,was the number stamped? Mine has a number hand scribed on the barrel hood
Sounds like maybe an evidence room marking instead of a manu. mark. Just a thought.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:03 AM
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Ken,

Is $425 considered pricey for a nice looking Sistema? Thanks.

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Old 10-08-2004, 07:55 AM
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On the ones that were,was the number stamped? Mine has a number hand scribed on the barrel hood
Both of mine are stamped, matching the serial numbers.
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Old 10-13-2004, 09:37 AM
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I saw 24278 last weekend, $400 asking price. Matching frame, barrel, slide. Had the hard black grip panels. No import marks I could find. Probably 50% or less finish left but mechanically looked pretty good.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:20 PM
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What is a fair market value for an Argentinian Colt 1927 in original condition? $400-$500 or so?

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Old 10-13-2004, 11:36 PM
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Selling price depends on version and condition

Alf, the arsenal-refinished Army, Airforce and commercial versions seem to be selling for 400.00-550.00. The Hartford models and Navy versions that have their original finish and are in very good or better condition are priced in the 800.00-1300.00 range.

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Old 10-16-2004, 09:53 AM
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Was the heat treatment on these no better than what Colt was doing in 1927?


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Old 10-16-2004, 10:47 PM
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The Sistemas were produced for several decades. I have never seen a reference to any specific manufacturing processes, except that the pistols were produced on Colt machinery and using the highest quality steel, but I would not be surprised that with their long history of weapons maunfacturing, the Argentines availed themselves of improvements in manufacturing techniques. Notwithstanding, the Sistema is basically a Colt 1911A1.
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:43 PM
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Lucky!!!!!!!!!!!

My pistol had a mis-matched barrel but worked O.K.
Was talking with a friend yesterday and he told me he had a barrel that was numbered and he brought it to me today. LO and BEHOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! It matched my pistol What is the chance of that happening again?
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Old 10-24-2004, 11:42 PM
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Incredible luck!

Ken:
That is incredible! The odds are something like one-in-eighty thousand ( I cannot remember how many Sistemas were made). Actually, the odds must be much higher. Now, just let me know, are the Red Sox going to win the World Series?
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:11 AM
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Ken,

That is absolutely astounding!!! Congrats!
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:26 AM
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That was pretty incredible, but I have a story almost as good.

I once owned a Lend-Lease Colt M1911A-1, and my mother had a friend whose husband owned the one made just after it in the Colt factory!

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Old 01-06-2005, 09:16 PM
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picked up an argentine the other day...

It's polished, blued, all markings pretty crisp. Has various scratches and worn bluing of course. Serial number is 353XX which I guess puts in 1946. Right side of slide has argentine crest and "EJERCITO ARGENTINO" (argentine army?). Sist.colt.... under that. Left side says" D.G.F.M. - (F.M.A.P.) and nothing else. All parts S/N match except mag. There are no import marks on it any where. It came with a set of hogue wrap arounds, but would like to know where to find original grips for it. Anybody know what the going rate for these things are these days? I payed $325 for it. I feel that was a fair price for a servicible 1911. Let me know what You all think.
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Old 01-07-2005, 08:46 PM
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Let's see some photos

snyper:
That seems like a great price in this market, particularly if it is the original finish with matching parts and without import marks. It is an Army model. It is difficult to find a Sistema with a matching magazine, although I have read some amazing stories on the forum about magazines being re-united with their pistols. Can you post some photos?
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