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Old 02-27-2013, 04:48 AM
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RIP SCPD Detectives

Santa Cruz PD lost two outstanding officers today in the first line of duty deaths in the history of their department.

Detective Sgt. "Butch" Baker (28 yr veteran) and Detective Elizabeth Butler (10 year vet) were both shot and killed while conducting a follow-up investigation on a violent sexual predator.

I was one of several deputies and officers who led the paramedics in to assess the down officers. We all see a lot of death in this line of work we're in. If I go the rest of my career without seeing a deceased person lying on the ground with a badge and handcuffs on their belt it will be too soon.

While stacking up to do house to house searches, a gunbattle erupted on the next street over. I haven't heard that many bullets fired in a loooong time. My dog and I sprinted as quick as we could to get there, along with my buddies, but it was over before we arrived. The suspect had been killed after he opened fire on two perimeter units.

Just to tie this in with a firearms forum, I'd like to add a quick comment on mind set. Nothing is ever "routine". Secondly, when you shoot someone, don't expect instant results. The two perimeter officers who shot and killed the suspect were both armed with M4's. Their comments were that they couldn't believe that after hitting the guy multiple times with long guns, it seemed to be having no effect at all, and he was still shooting back. Please don't get into the false mindset of expecting hollywood results. Keep cover, concealment, distance, and escape routes in mind even during the gunfight.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:36 AM
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Sincerest condolences to their families and your department.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:51 AM
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Sincerest condolences to their families and your department.
Thank you Deputy. But the fallen officers were with the PD, and I'm with the SO. I'd met both of them over the years but regret to say I didn't know them well. They both had spouses and children at home.

Our department and some of the other PD's in the county are handling all calls for the city tomorrow, so SCPD can have a day to begin recovering.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:26 AM
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Officer Down - End of Watch

This thread is dedicated to those Law Enforcement Officers who have answered the call and paid the ultimate price while on duty.

I ask that entries be brief and that follow up discussions not be conducted at great length. Please also be sure to visit the Officer Down Memorial Page from time to time as a reminder of those who walk the tough beat both inside prison and on the streets.

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:30 AM
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Correctional Officer Eric Williams, End of Watch 2/25/13

My professional family lost a very young Officer on Monday night at the hands of a brutal killer inside the wire. Our kind walk our beat without a gun with only our minds and open hands as weapons.

Correctional Officer Eric Williams was stabbed to death by an inmate inside USP Canaan in Waymart, Pennsylvania, at approximately 11:30 pm.

The inmate attacked Officer Williams and stabbed him with a shank before being subdued by other officers. Officer Williams was transported to a local hospital where he succumbed to his wounds.

Officer Williams had served with the Federal Bureau of Prisons for 18 months.

Rest in peace Brother Scott, my condolences to you and your family.

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:38 AM
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Thank for making this thread, Fin.

I'll make my reply brief to keep in the spirit of the thread. Sorry to hear about Officer Williams. If this thread makes us even a little bit safer by reminding us of our mortality and how to stay in the right mindset, I think it will be a very fitting tribute to our brothers and sisters who have gone before us.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:37 PM
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There are no words that can express the sorrow we feel as LEO's when a brother or sister loose their lives in the line of duty.

God speed and my condolences to the familys.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for the post and stay safe brother-fellow LEO here!! RIP fallen officers and condolences all the way around.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:54 PM
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My condolences to their friends and families.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:14 PM
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Godspeed Detective Sgt. "Butch" Baker and Detective Elizabeth Butler...

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Old 02-27-2013, 03:34 PM
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Santa Cruz PD lost two outstanding officers ...

If I go the rest of my career without seeing a deceased person lying on the ground with a badge and handcuffs on their belt it will be too soon.
Roger that. Thanks for the sitrep.
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:49 PM
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Condolences and prayers to all three families. May God welcome into his arms the spirit of those officers who gave all they had to give
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:36 PM
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I'm so very sorry for their loss; good people going in harms way to protect and serve the well being of the general public. My condolences extended to their families and friends.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:40 PM
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May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead.

RIP, brother and sister.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:44 PM
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:20 PM
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R.I.P. Brothers and Sister from a fellow Leo. Smoke and prayers from Kansas. My thoughts and prayers go out to their familys, friends and coworkers.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:23 AM
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Having suffered with the death of a close friend one day at work in 1990 I can tell you it hurts. My friend was shot down in front of me on Thanksgiving Day 1990 by a deranged man who shot a deputy (another jurisdiction) in the face hours earlier. Hopefully the department will rally around the officers families AND colleagues and assist them through this ordeal. My agency was top notch in this matter and they even sent a number of us the following year to Police Week to escort the officers family and to attend the classes for colleagues during the seminars. Unfortunately I've heard where some agencies did what little they could get away with in helping everyone involved including the family of the deceased.

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Old 02-28-2013, 07:38 AM
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There is no such thing as a "routine" call. My prayers and thoughts to family, friends and fellow officers.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:04 AM
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Sorry for your loss, Brother. I have heard bagpipes far too often.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:40 PM
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Godspeed to our fallen Brother and Sister! Chin up Boulder!

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Old 03-03-2013, 10:21 PM
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Sincerest condolences to their families and your department. Thank you for your service. And thank you for reminding us that bad guys don't always give up or just fall over when shot. Again, my condolences.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:35 PM
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RIP and a big thank you to all those who "Serve & Protect."
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:36 AM
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I give condolences to the families of these brave officers. We have two families. One we are born into, and the other we are sworn into. A loss in either one hurts just as much as the other. We need to remember these losses so that we do our best to always return to our families. Either at home or at end of shift. My days of being on the street are behind me now, but hearing of these hurts still. God speed to all on their journey to heaven.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:16 PM
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Santa Cruz PD lost two outstanding officers today in the first line of duty deaths in the history of their department.

Detective Sgt. "Butch" Baker (28 yr veteran) and Detective Elizabeth Butler (10 year vet) were both shot and killed while conducting a follow-up investigation on a violent sexual predator.

I was one of several deputies and officers who led the paramedics in to assess the down officers. We all see a lot of death in this line of work we're in. If I go the rest of my career without seeing a deceased person lying on the ground with a badge and handcuffs on their belt it will be too soon.

While stacking up to do house to house searches, a gunbattle erupted on the next street over. I haven't heard that many bullets fired in a loooong time. My dog and I sprinted as quick as we could to get there, along with my buddies, but it was over before we arrived. The suspect had been killed after he opened fire on two perimeter units.

Just to tie this in with a firearms forum, I'd like to add a quick comment on mind set. Nothing is ever "routine". Secondly, when you shoot someone, don't expect instant results. The two perimeter officers who shot and killed the suspect were both armed with M4's. Their comments were that they couldn't believe that after hitting the guy multiple times with long guns, it seemed to be having no effect at all, and he was still shooting back. Please don't get into the false mindset of expecting hollywood results. Keep cover, concealment, distance, and escape routes in mind even during the gunfight.
Thanks for serving buddy. It's true we see too much death and abuse in this job.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:35 PM
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My professional family lost a very young Officer on Monday night at the hands of a brutal killer inside the wire. Our kind walk our beat without a gun with only our minds and open hands as weapons.

Correctional Officer Eric Williams was stabbed to death by an inmate inside USP Canaan in Waymart, Pennsylvania, at approximately 11:30 pm.

The inmate attacked Officer Williams and stabbed him with a shank before being subdued by other officers. Officer Williams was transported to a local hospital where he succumbed to his wounds.

Officer Williams had served with the Federal Bureau of Prisons for 18 months.

Rest in peace Brother Scott, my condolences to you and your family.

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RIP ...please accept my condolences.

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