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Old 01-19-2020, 09:22 AM
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1943 Colt 1911a1 - New Owner

I picked up this 43 Colt yesterday. I have went through one of the collectors book and it is seeming like almost everything is correct for it. Barrel has the P on one side and a F on the bottom.

I am somewhat curious of its value to see how I did, but in no way will this one ever be for sale. Just looking to see if anything stands out as incorrect to anyone.

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Old 01-19-2020, 12:40 PM
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The serial number actually places it as early 1944. It appears correct as it's in the period where the stamped trigger was adopted by Colt but the wide-spur hammer and checkered mainspring housings were still in use.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:43 PM
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The serial number actually places it as early 1944. It appears correct as it's in the period where the stamped trigger was adopted by Colt but the wide-spur hammer and checkered mainspring housings were still in use.
Thank you, 1944 does seem correct now that I looked more.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:31 PM
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Dsk is spot on about it being a 1944 pistol. The last 1943 pistol shipped by Colt was on 30December1943 and was serial numbered 1161194. Your pistol would have been shipped in February or March 1944.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:38 PM
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BTW I would place its value at around $2000 or so. It's important to point out however that prices for wartime Colts are all over the place. I've seen nicer guns sell for close to $1000 and worse guns sell for nearly twice as much.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:48 PM
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BTW I would place its value at around $2000 or so. It's important to point out however that prices for wartime Colts are all over the place. I've seen nicer guns sell for close to $1000 and worse guns sell for nearly twice as much.
Thats about what I was expecting. I am safe into it then.

Also the value is weird for sure on these. I watched some in decently poor shape sell for a lot more than I have into this.

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Old 01-19-2020, 05:53 PM
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$2500 up here if you can find one. DSK is correct, prices are all over. I watch most auctions for M1911 and A1 pistols. I'd like to get what some of these are bringing but all of mine aren't rare, unissued, never fired, cannot be upgraded, investment grade, museum quality , spent the war in a drawer 99% examples.
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:38 PM
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$2500 up here if you can find one. DSK is correct, prices are all over. I watch most auctions for M1911 and A1 pistols. I'd like to get what some of these are bringing but all of mine aren't rare, unissued, never fired, cannot be upgraded, investment grade, museum quality , spent the war in a drawer 99% examples.
$2500 would be a lot for this, I think. Either way Iím well under what itís worth. It seems like the reasonable condition ones that are somewhat used but not well worn like this are almost worth less than the well used examples from a couple auctions Iíve seen. Itís strange.
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:44 PM
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It's a legitimate, out the door, no tax (9%) $2300-$2600 pistol in my neck of the woods. Much of what I see around here is junk. Mostly incorrect and/or refinished pistols.
Gun show pistols are stupidly priced. LGS prices aren't much better. Pawnshops have been my best source
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Old 01-19-2020, 06:58 PM
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It's a legitimate, out the door, no tax (9%) $2300-$2600 pistol in my neck of the woods. Much of what I see around here is junk. Mostly incorrect and/or refinished pistols.
Gun show pistols are stupidly priced. LGS prices aren't much better. Pawnshops have been my best source
Gun shows around me are insane as well. $3,000 is the starting price people are asking for any army Colt, mostly garbage.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:12 PM
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Barrel has the P on one side and a F on the bottom.
Did Colts use Flannery barrels?
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:16 PM
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Did Colts use Flannery barrels?
Negative. Although I am not entirely certain what the F is for. It is a Colt barrel, whether the F be an inspector or what. It has a P on the side.
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Old 01-19-2020, 10:12 PM
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Did Colts use Flannery barrels?
You can clearly see "COLT 45 AUTO" on the barrel in the pictures so the F is apparently on the bottom.
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Old 01-19-2020, 10:41 PM
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You can clearly see "COLT 45 AUTO" on the barrel in the pictures so the F is apparently on the bottom.
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Old 01-20-2020, 12:54 PM
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This is an easy $2000 gun in my neighborhood.
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Old 01-21-2020, 02:37 AM
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Looks everything on your Colt is 100 percent correct. If you got it a good deal, Congratulation! It’s a very nice used WWII Colt! Take good care of her!
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Old 01-21-2020, 05:55 AM
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This is an easy $2000 gun in my neighborhood.
Here where I live a pistol like that would be closer to 3K Euro (about 3,300 $)

Congratulations on that great purchase.
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Old 01-21-2020, 06:07 AM
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Looks everything on your Colt is 100 percent correct. If you got it a good deal, Congratulation! Itís a very nice used WWII Colt! Take good care of her!
Plenty of oil and safe time is definitely in itís future 👍
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