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Old 01-01-2020, 09:40 AM
MattLF9 MattLF9 is offline
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Curious about my Ithaca

I'm just curious and I never asked but where was my Ithaca shipped to?
I believe it was made in 1943 S#1210316.
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Old 01-01-2020, 11:31 AM
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Your Ithaca was not shipped in serial number sequence thus it would have shipped to any one of 12 different arsenals, depots or destinations from as early 5Nov43 to as late as 18April44.
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Old 01-01-2020, 01:52 PM
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Was that the normal way they did things?
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Old 01-01-2020, 02:13 PM
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Through their second contract, it seems so. Beginning with their third contract, they began shipping sequentially on 25April44.
There are Ithaca shipping records and there used to be some members who had access and who could tell you the exact date and location to which a pistol was shipped
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Old 01-01-2020, 03:11 PM
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Thanks Filson, I appreciate the info!
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Old 01-09-2020, 11:45 AM
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ITHACA's records apparently were found by a collector about 20 years ago, but were not complete, and if I'm not wrong the person that found the records did sell copies of them for a time, and then another collector started selling "copies" too.
Mr Clawson's 2nd and 3rd edition of his "Collector's Guide" have an abbreviated list of the ITHACA shipping records which consisted of the serial numbers by contract. If a pistol was shipped in numerical serial number order you can find it in those lists with the date and destination, while to find the ITHACAs that were not shipped in numerical order until I think the 24th May 1944 you need to have the above mentioned records.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:36 PM
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Your Ithaca was not shipped in serial number sequence thus it would have shipped to any one of 12 different arsenals, depots or destinations from as early 5Nov43 to as late as 18April44.
I came to the same conclusion. It's a shame they weren't sent out sequentially, and better records weren't kept on these. It would be nice to know the exact dates and destinations.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:16 PM
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Yes, agree. The non-sequential serial number ranges are quite large too. It's just about impossible to neck things down with all the facilities receiving pistols at that point in the war. There are some sequential serial number records out there that better refine shipping dates and destinations. A couple of members have the detailed shipping records. Kind of neat actually.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:28 PM
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Yes, agree. The non-sequential serial number ranges are quite large too. It's just about impossible to neck things down with all the facilities receiving pistols at that point in the war. There are some sequential serial number records out there that better refine shipping dates and destinations. A couple of members have the detailed shipping records. Kind of neat actually.
I bet... heck... I can hardly blame them, though. I have a hard enough time keeping track of my measly little pile. Needless to say, though... the shipment of 1911 pistols during war time is a little more important. I guess I should be glad we have the records that we do.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:18 PM
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Hey, You have a legit, at least on first look, is a Double stamp. What is the big deal about where it was shipped? This is one of about 15K. It is a treasure. Enjoy it. Who cares if it went to Joes Military gun shop in 1943, it is a Double stamp. The gun speaks for itself so listen. The correctness and rarity of the gun matter, the date shipped is academic. I repeat myself, the gun is what speaks the truth and is apparently a correct Double stamp.

The shipping record could be sorted though, if the page you need can be read. I am more interested in the barrel markings, MSH,type of hammer, etc..

Most 1911A1s went to a very less than interesting place. The gun is what counts, not some shipping record unless it was used by Ronald Regan.

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