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Old 01-18-2020, 05:31 PM
DuibiousDan DuibiousDan is offline
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Request info on USGI 1911

I recently inherited a USGI 1911. I'm guessing it's an A 1

The slide is stamped Remington Rand Inc.

The frame is marked RIA FA (I'm guessing Rock Island Arsenal but searches send me to Rock Island Armory) and with the US Army Ordnance Branch Insignia (The ball with the flame coming out of the top).


The other side is marked "United States Property"

No 4856XX

Unfortunately it has been chrome or nickle plated.
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:19 AM
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No 4856XX indicates a 1918 Colt M1911 frame. Such guns are known as mixmasters and are quite common, as the military never bothered to keep the original parts together when weapons were cleaned or rebuilt. The plating job however is something a subsequent civilian owner did, although that too was common from the 1950s through 1970s as nickel finishes were popular in the pre-Rambo era.
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Old 01-19-2020, 01:10 AM
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No 4856XX indicates a 1918 Colt M1911 frame. Such guns are known as mixmasters and are quite common, as the military never bothered to keep the original parts together when weapons were cleaned or rebuilt. The plating job however is something a subsequent civilian owner did, although that too was common from the 1950s through 1970s as nickel finishes were popular in the pre-Rambo era.
Thanks for the information. Very useful.
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Old 01-19-2020, 05:15 AM
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Anyway as often occours in cases like this, it maybe helpful to Forum members if you could post some good quality pictures. Why don't you take some close ups in natural lighting in the shade without flash, particularly of the markings. I'm sure several other people will like to partecipate to the discussion.
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Old 01-19-2020, 03:54 PM
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Anyway as often occours in cases like this, it maybe helpful to Forum members if you could post some good quality pictures. Why don't you take some close ups in natural lighting in the shade without flash, particularly of the markings. I'm sure several other people will like to partecipate to the discussion.
I received it in several parts and at this point I'm unable to assemble it properly because I'm unable to remove the thumb safety. This is the first time I've had an issue taking a 1911 apart. I did find someone willing to help with that issue next week.

The plating makes some of the markings difficult to see and I'm not sure how well they will photograph.
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Old 01-22-2020, 10:10 AM
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Whatever you do, do not yield to the temptation to try to pry or hammer out the slide stop. I'd say that during its service life, the pistol was rebuilt at Rock Island Arsenal and another time by Frankford Arsenal. Now if the 'A' in 'FA' is really a 'K', it would mean the pistol was initialed for Frank Krack, who was the chief inspector at RIA for a period.
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Old 01-22-2020, 04:24 PM
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Being guys, I realize WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING MANUALS! But just in case you really want to know how to put the pistol together check this out http://everyspec.com/ARMY/TM-Tech-Ma...CHG-1-5_49222/
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:40 PM
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I received it in several parts and at this point I'm unable to assemble it properly because I'm unable to remove the thumb safety. This is the first time I've had an issue taking a 1911 apart. I did find someone willing to help with that issue next week.

The plating makes some of the markings difficult to see and I'm not sure how well they will photograph.
I'm sure you have already surfed the Net and found several instructional videos about how to reassemble a M1911, in any case I enclose this link to one of the many interesting videos of MR COLT 45.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xlRvyKsiLs
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