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Old 05-22-2020, 11:22 AM
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Suggestions, please - LW Commander type?

First - a little background...
- geezer/7th decade/martial arts past (Godan-Renshi in Isshin Ryu)
- training since the 80s - Gunsite, BW, etc.
- 1911 armorers classes
- soon-to-retire professor (anatomy/pathophysiology/forensics)
- 50 years shooting 1911s
- daily CCW with Glock 17 with RDS (smaller guns for NPEs)

I like to cover all bases. So - at either the state or national level, I can see a possible hi-cap ban down the road. Am brushing up on my revolvers (SW m22-4 .45 acp is favorite) and lo-cap autos. All current 1911s are steel (Springfields and a DW Valor).

I am now looking for lightweight, combat-accurate 1911(.45) for daily CCW. Would prefer to stay at/under $1500. Reliability is #1 on the list of requirements. #2 is good, visible sights (at least front as NS) - other than Heineís (canít stand em:). Especially looking for feedback from those who have experience with several types, as opposed to one-brand fanboys.

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Old 05-22-2020, 11:53 AM
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Colt Wiley Clapp O4840WC, which will likely be a rattle can so spend the extra $400 on a tightening tune up and that night site you like.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/O4840WC

Highly recommend switching to 9mm, and recommend Dan Wesson Guardian #01828 good to go after 500 rounds. If you are locked into .45 ACP they sell this as model 01829.
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/guardian-2/

I own the Clapp and 01828
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:12 PM
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I carry a Colt/Talo Clapp Commander which is nice as far as fit and finish but it is the third one I looked at when shopping for one. Also have a S&W from the Perf Center which is also very nice but an E Series would also be nice. I have a Ruger SR1911CMD-LW that is surprisingly nice for the price. I am guessing DW would also be nice but the only Commander size pistol from them I have is all steel and 10mm.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:50 PM
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I'll second the Dan Wesson Guardian. I own one and really like it.

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Old 05-22-2020, 01:12 PM
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I'll second the Dan Wesson Guardian. I own one and really like it. k
How many rounds through your Guardian? Canít keep things straight in my old brain - does the Guardian have a steel insert ramp, or alloy?

Many thanks.

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Old 05-22-2020, 01:33 PM
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I had one of the newer releases of the Colt LW Commander and it was flawless in operation. $900 and change.


Looks like Bud’s only has the more expensive Gunsite version right now.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_...stol+b+gunsite

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Old 05-22-2020, 01:51 PM
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I’ve heard really good things about the new Dan Wesson ECP, especially the trigger. Note that it has a bull barrel and a brass bead front sight, so it might not be what you’re looking for.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:02 PM
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Have both Colt and Dan Wesson CCOs in 45acp; Capacity with modern mags is the original 7+1 and the CCO is easier to conceal for us than a LW Commander. Just a thought. BTW, the DW is a more nicely appointed pistol.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:19 PM
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:48 PM
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How many rounds through your Guardian? Canít keep things straight in my old brain - does the Guardian have a steel insert ramp, or alloy?



Many thanks.



geezer john
I have about 1500 rounds through it. I think the only allow is the lower frame.

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Old 05-22-2020, 04:07 PM
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The DW Vigil CCO in 45ACP has a ramped barrel to protect the alloy frame and enhance feeding. I assume the Commander model has the same; other models; don't know.
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:24 PM
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I'll second the Dan Wesson ECP. It comes in 9mm and .45acp. The .45acp has become my EDC. The brass bead front sight works well in low light although it doesn't "pop". The bobtail makes it great for carrying. The tapered grip panels really enhance the grip. And it is a tack driver. I'm in your age group and am becoming more recoil sensitive but the recoil is very well mitigated. It's a ramped barrel on both versions.

If you are not a fan of the bobtail, the TCP is essentially the non-bobbed version. The TCP is easier to find and they usually sell for a little less than the ECP.
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:33 PM
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Scoff all ya want , but I couldn't be happier with my Para Expert Lightweight Commander. Bought it on sale when Remington was liquidating the Para line for $400 and used the $100 rebate for a set of XS Big Dot nite sights. It's proved accurate and reliable. And the factory trigger was more than suitable for defensive work. It has smoothed up nicely after about 5000rds. I don't like extended safety so that was the only thing that got changed. Grips are like shoes. And if it gets a few 'beauty marks' while being EDC , so what! Neither of us will ever win a beauty contest.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:06 AM
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You are describing a Dan Wesson IMO. Both the Vigil and Guardian will fall into your price bracket close enough. The Vigil can be had in CCO or traditional Commander configuration, and comes with blacked out rear sights with a night sight front kind of sounds like what you would like. Of course you'd still have money left over to change out the front sight anyway if you went Vigil, you should be able to snag one for less than $1300.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:08 PM
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Ruger lw commander. Mine has been great.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:26 PM
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:33 PM
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I would certainly agree with the Wiley Clapp LWT...
and a couple of Dan Wesson's offerings.
They all have nice 'added' features at their price point.

I really like the 'bobtailed' frame on my Kimber SC Pro 4"...
so those Dan Wesson's would be high on my list.
As I get older, .38 Super seems to be a good default/alternative caliber,
so the DW Guardian is a nice option.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:39 PM
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Picked up a Valkyrie a little while back and really like it.

https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/valkyrie/

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Old 05-24-2020, 08:31 AM
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jmoore I got lucky and picked up a lost in a stock room for two years new colt 04840wc also but bought it for $1050 since I help clean up the stock in the room . I have not shoot it much but have right at 2800 rounds thru it the last 2 years but unlike catalina's point of view is as tight as when new thanks to amsoil 10w0 synthetic oil and there bearing grease I have used over the decades !! I like both a 45 and a 9mm having a little Kimber ultra also that has twice the rounds fired . I use a full length recoil rod and a flat wire spring and to soften the recoil a bit more and beating an alloy frame can take I add a 3/4" of another flat wire spring to the full length spring to act as a buffer with no concerns of the spring bottoming out . A custom gun smith told me this trick 40 years ago .
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:43 AM
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OP - This is a smoking deal on a Valkyrie:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/869010421
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:13 PM
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OP - This is a smoking deal on a Valkyrie:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/869010421
That IS a good deal! I have a Dan Wesson CCO that I like a lot, except for the front strap treatment. I much prefer the checkering on the Valkyrie. Hmmm, you may have just cost me some cash...
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:29 PM
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I have a .45 Colt Wiley Clapp lt wt Commander and a 9 MM Valkyrie Commander. Both work very well. I don't like the sights on either. The Colt has a brass bead, it doesn't shine , the Valkyrie has some kind of night sight with a rather large white ring, can't get a sight picture with it. I think some gold bead front sights are needed but haven't done it yet. Both guns are reliable and suitable for carry just like they are.
AS for tightening the Colt, WHY? It would likely make it less reliable............We're talking carry guns not Bullseye pistols.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:04 PM
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I have been raving about this pistol ever since I got it......Dan Wesson ECP .45. As a background, I have owned a lot of different 1911’s from Kimber, Sigs, Nighthawk, Colt, and 6 Wilson Combats and a few others. The DW ECP has proven to be on par with the Wilson Combats for fit and finish, accuracy, and ease of carry. The trigger may be the best 1911 trigger I have experienced. For the price ($1300 delivered) it will be a hard pistol to beat. It’s a very basic looking pistol, which I also like. The only thing I would change out is the brass bead front sight, other then that the pistol is good to go.

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Old 05-24-2020, 09:05 PM
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I really enjoy my Ruger lw Commander. Has been trouble free
Only changed the recoil spring at 2000 rounds. No issues just thought it was time.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:41 PM
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I have 2 thoughts really. A Dan Wesson Guardian in .38 super. A lot of gun for the money. And some Buffalo Bore or similar loads would get you at least 9+1 of substantial heat. Other suggestion S&W E series round butt 4” Scandium alloy commander in .45. Kicks a touch more but my guess is that you aren’t going to be in a lot of gunfights, so not a bad trade off. You could always use lighter loads in .45 acp. I am in the same age range. Not really ready to move to 9mm for ccw. (Yet). The sights on both are great. I do like the Rugers in .45 and 9mm but you may need night sights. Anything will work. In about any price range too.

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