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View Poll Results: Which 45 ACP long slide? Kimber or Springfield?
Kimber 7 36.84%
Springfield 12 63.16%
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:52 PM
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Kimber or Springfield 6" Long Slide 45 ACP?

Looking to buy one soon. Has to be 45, has to be 6". Informal shooting, Steel plate and bowling pin matches. Any opinion on these 2 pistols?
BTW Kimber is about $300 cheaper if it matters
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:42 PM
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Give the MAC Bullseye a look. Only about $1000 and shoots great.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:50 PM
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The only Springfield longslide that I see on the S.A. website is a 10mm. I may be missing somthing.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 AM
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I voted Springfield for two reasons.

1. Historically, Kimber has an inconsistent record on the quality and reliability of their handguns. My understanding is that they are fine right now, but they have had their ups and downs.

2. I am not a fan of the Swartz firing pin safety that they use on their 1911s.
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Old Yesterday, 01:36 PM
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Kimbers long slide models don't have the Swartz firing pin safety.
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Old Yesterday, 03:13 PM
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Is Springfield still buying cast frames from S. America ? Blackjack, you're kidding right ?
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Old Yesterday, 04:17 PM
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Last I heard, the metal is from Brazil, but the frames are made here.
Blackjack must be referring to the short stint of extractor problems??
They are not "up and down".
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Old Yesterday, 07:48 PM
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Is Springfield still buying cast frames from S. America ? Blackjack, you're kidding right ?
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Last I heard, the metal is from Brazil, but the frames are made here.
Blackjack must be referring to the short stint of extractor problems??
They are not "up and down".


Gentlemen Springfield is been 100% done with Embel , Brazil since 2016
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Old Yesterday, 08:04 PM
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While I'am a Springfield fan boy . The longslide only comes in 10mm now .
The last 45acp longslides were made in 2014 . They were nice pistols .

Have you looked at Dan Wesson longslides .
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/bruin-2/
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Old Yesterday, 08:08 PM
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Springfield for sure as you probably want to shoot it......all the Kimbers I owned were good for malfunction drills.
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Old Yesterday, 10:40 PM
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I voted Springfield for two reasons.

1. Historically, Kimber has an inconsistent record on the quality and reliability of their handguns. My understanding is that they are fine right now, but they have had their ups and downs.

2. I am not a fan of the Swartz firing pin safety that they use on their 1911s.
Could not have said it better.

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Old Today, 07:35 AM
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Gentlemen Springfield is been 100% done with Embel , Brazil since 2016
You mean Imbel? As in made in a Brazilian factory?
You say done WITH Embel? Your isís and withís really alter what you are saying....
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Old Today, 07:54 AM
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Springfield was a parts gun, maybe that's changed. They didn't actually make anything, they assembled guns from parts they bought from whoever was cheapest. I don't know if that's changed or not but I know Kimber never has been that kind of company. The only Springfield I ever owned, the inside looked like the machining had been done with a chisel and hammer. The extractor stuck out of the slide 1/4 inch and it was supposed to be one of there better guns, a 40 cal. EMP. I would buy an RIA and have a good smith check it out before I'd mess with a Springfield, you'd have the same thing except you'd be the one dealing with the smith.
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Old Today, 08:50 AM
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Well, Iíve been reading this with great interest since I bought a kimber .45 longslide target a bit ago. My first Kimber.

First off iris a series 70, no Swartz safety.

Secondly, I have to say Iím a bit of a Springfield fn boy as well, even though they were werenít great to start with, the emp4 was full of dirt and machining debris to start with but worked well once clean up until the glued ejector came loose, I believe this was caused from the top round in the mag hitting it.

The 9mm ss r-officer was a total pos but after 1 1/2yrs of working on it, it has become a great & damn accurate piece for the last 10k rds. I think Springfield has improved their quality since all this.

The Kimber, I initially started out looking for a Springfield longslide after shooting Bills SACS longslide, what a truly great piece ! Buttheyhavenítbeen made for awhile now and when they come up they are very expensive, the Kimber was only $850, but the quality was reflected in the price. It was truly lacking.

On the Kimber the barrel to slide fit was very good but the barrel bushingfit was very loose, a call to egw fixed that problem, also called for a oversized .201in slide stop which required me to ream the frame as well, the barrel link hole was still .005in bigger and I ended up changing it as well and in retrospect I would have just changed the link but the frame holes were different side to side.

Al said and done the Kimber is now quite accurate and after tuning the extremely loose extractor unit is totally reliable functioning. While the gun functions excellently the asteticís leave a lot to be desired, it is not the quality fit and finish of Kimber years ago. But it functions very well.

Personally I believe that just about anything short of a Brown , Wilson or ACW, is going to need some tuning and work.... my.02
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