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Old 02-18-2020, 09:59 AM
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G2 R.I.P. Ammo

Good morning everyone,

I'm supposed to take possession of a Colt Government 380 this evening. I was wondering if anyone has an opinion of the G2 R.I.P. ammo. Is it the pinnacle of defense loads for a smaller caliber? Is there a 'better' round?

Thank you all for your advice.

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Old 02-18-2020, 10:45 AM
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Gimmick round that may or may not work well, you are better off with critical defense or Hst if the barrel is a little longer
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:43 AM
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Gimmick round that may or may not work well, you are better off with critical defense or Hst if the barrel is a little longer
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:45 AM
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I agree with Striker
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Old 02-18-2020, 12:15 PM
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Try the Underwood or Buffalo Bore 100 grain +P flat nose hardcast. You want max penetration with those smaller rounds. Buffalo Bore posted a story of a hunting guide guide who killed a grizzly with a 9mm 147 grain hardcast load. Seems that if a bear could be dispatched with the 9mm HC load a human could be similarly dispatched with a 380 HC load.
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Old 02-18-2020, 03:27 PM
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https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...-tests/#380ACP

A little outdated as it doesnít have some of the newer ammo, but should give you a good starting place to begin learning some details to look for...
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Old 02-21-2020, 12:23 PM
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https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...-tests/#380ACP

A little outdated as it doesnít have some of the newer ammo, but should give you a good starting place to begin learning some details to look for...
Thank you, have a GREAT weekend.
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Old 02-22-2020, 08:06 AM
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Yeah, Striker said it. More gimmick than good. They do show them exploding when they hit a balloon full of water though. I donít think balloons are going to kick your door in though!
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Old 02-22-2020, 10:42 AM
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What Nitro and Striker said.
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:33 PM
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Good morning everyone,

I'm supposed to take possession of a Colt Government 380 this evening. I was wondering if anyone has an opinion of the G2 R.I.P. ammo. Is it the pinnacle of defense loads for a smaller caliber? Is there a 'better' round?

Thank you all for your advice.

Guy in SC
Many folks would probably disagree, but when I carried a .380, I stuck with ball fmj. Preferably WWB which used a truncated tip. Was never confident the short barrels these little guns use would yield enough velocity for expansion and even when they do expand, the energy dump is low and penetration is compromised.
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:34 AM
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Iíll go along with the FMJ thing in that cartridge. You donít have to worry about over-penetration, thatís for sure.
What I donít agree with is the WWB thing. That is some of the worst ammo made. Nice bullet profile, but crap ammo. For that gun to be effective against the bad guy with clothes on, ya gotta get some snot behind the projectile. White box is fine for shootiní at dirt, but you hafta carry a solid premium product.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:33 AM
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G2 RIP is great for separating gun owners from their money!

Gimmick round and there are much better offerings. Refer to the LuckyGunner ammo test cited above.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:43 AM
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Penetration is required. Expansion is gravy. 380 is so marginal that you usually don't get both. For 380 I would just use ball, and know I was going to get penetration.
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:12 AM
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As mentioned above, if you don't care for a hollow point in .380 Underwoods hard cast flat noses would be a good choice.
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Old 03-14-2020, 11:18 AM
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As mentioned above, if you don't care for a hollow point in .380 Underwoods hard cast flat noses would be a good choice.


I agree. I carry this in a Glock 42 as a back up gun and it is excellent. Have also used a few rounds of it in my KelTec P3AT with no issues.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:37 AM
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As mentioned above, if you don't care for a hollow point in .380 Underwoods hard cast flat noses would be a good choice.
Yup, good example....gotta get some snap outta that thing.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:06 AM
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I think that for the .380 ACP simply using FMJ round nose bullets work best. The .380 is marginal for hollow point bullets expanding in something. I don't know if the G2 RIP bullets would really work against someone in real life.

But in the more powerful calibers, those G2 RIP bullets appear to be quite vicious. The petals peel back slashing the flesh and break off scarttering throughout the body. I can see surgeons just leaving the pieces inside someone as removing the pieces may cause too much additional damage.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:36 AM
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You have to wonder what the effect would be through winter clothing. That entire thing would break into pieces trying to fight through the layers. Maybe 5Pins can do a test through several layers of denim...
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Old 03-22-2020, 09:04 PM
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Well the .380 FMJ does penetrate fairly well.

Car windshield test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfKSXWLNxg

Car door test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52zMLjGTAz4

Well I stand corrected, the .380 G2 RIP bullets do seem to work well even with sheet rock etc in front of a body. So a coat, jacket, sweater etc may not do all that much to mess it up. This guy tested it out against different things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxAE...NS5sQ&index=44

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Old 03-23-2020, 06:34 AM
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I think that test was with a 92 grain 9mm correct?
Actually somewhat impressive. I would not expect that from a 380 though.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:39 AM
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They said it was a .380 that they used, not the 9mm. That was what surprised me too. The sheet rock didn't stop the petals from peeling off and exploding throughout the gel. Similar with the denim jacket. Worse was the bullet cut off a lot of denim to scatter inside the gel too. it makes for a nasty wound even if the assailant survives.

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