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Old 12-01-2018, 08:14 AM
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It is cast. Same castings blanks Caspian uses for their frame.
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Old 12-01-2018, 10:34 AM
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In no way a fan of Rugerís offering, but worth mentioned Caspian frames are cast.
Interesting. I wonder about STI frames.
I think the Ruger has some hand work but not on a par with the custom manufacturers or the so called individual gunsmiths producing works at $6,500. Usually you get what you pay for; but look what a durable, dependable, reliable, simple Glock sells for and the fact it last for a huge number of rounds; and you have wonder why you spend $6,500 for something that goes bang just like a Glock does and probably last longer.
I have never seen this Ruger but maybe I could become a fan considering the work and price.
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:33 PM
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Usually you get what you pay for; but look what a durable, dependable, reliable, simple Glock sells for and the fact it last for a huge number of rounds; and you have wonder why you spend $6,500 for something that goes bang just like a Glock does and probably last longer.
I have never seen this Ruger but maybe I could become a fan considering the work and price.
For a combat firearm, bang for the buck itís hard to beat a Gen 5 Glock, agreed.

However, while I think $6,500 is excessive Iíve paid for many full customs for precision pistol and the articles below explain why.

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/cstomgun.htm

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/...ster-gunsmith/
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:22 AM
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I would like to handle one and take a good look at things in person. Also since they are advertising this as an out of the box, ready for competition piece what kind of ccuracy they are advertising.

I had all this “ready for competition” bluster on my SA, SS, 9mm RO and can tell you that if you were intent on just blowing some rounds downrange and losing it was the gun for that, a couple of trips back to SA, one to SACs and some additional work by me and the gun is decent enough (could have bought a DW PM9 for less). The point here being is the Ruger actually good enough to compete or just marketing bluster.

As a side note I have multiple Rugers and they all just run and run well, no complaints and all are really more accurate than the shooter but all combined I don’t have $2500 in the lot. My .02

One thing i’ll add is that this kinda reminds me of my Sig STX that I bought from their pro shop with the Sig Custom Shop label on it and claimed hand fitting as well as Premium materials (whatever that means) the Sig is a very nice well fitted piece, way more accurate than I am. Great gun ! And only $1000 OTD. I’ll also add in my p210 target that’s also supposedly been through the Sig custom shop, very fine gun and probably the smoothest action i’ve Experienced (including my ed Brown 9mm executive) short of a ACW/Cabot, all in at $1300 OTD. Ruger’s got their work cut out for them, I hope in a year we’ll all be standing in line to get one but....Again just my .02

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Old 12-02-2018, 01:38 PM
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Yup. Need to tear it completely down under a strong lamp. I have no problem with cast frames if Ruger is casting them. Their casting plants are making aerospace parts and landing gear assemblies. They really are "rocket scientists".
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:52 PM
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Interesting. I wonder about STI frames.
I think the Ruger has some hand work but not on a par with the custom manufacturers or the so called individual gunsmiths producing works at $6,500. Usually you get what you pay for; but look what a durable, dependable, reliable, simple Glock sells for and the fact it last for a huge number of rounds; and you have wonder why you spend $6,500 for something that goes bang just like a Glock does and probably last longer.
I have never seen this Ruger but maybe I could become a fan considering the work and price.
A $2500, $3500, $4500 or a $6500 1911 is like a good trigger or a cue stick which hits softer than others. You won't know it until you experience it.

I own a Glock...it is does not compare to a well buit 1911. Not even close.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:39 AM
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The December "Guns&Ammo" has an article on these and a bit about the Ruger Custom Shop.
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Old 01-06-2019, 06:38 AM
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I would like to handle one and take a good look at things in person. Also since they are advertising this as an out of the box, ready for competition piece what kind of accuracy they are advertising.
Thats a beef I have with anything Ruger that's advertised as a Precision, or Target anything. They have no accuracy guarantee. Too often I and others have been let down by the lack of accuracy and Ruger just takes the position it meets their standards. A $500.00 gun Im willing to take a chance, $1,800.00 +...no way.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:53 AM
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I think this pistol may find a slot in the market. Today's customs are running in almost $4,000 class. Les Baer still has a few a tad under $3,000 but not most. The least expensive is $3,000 plus and if you ask for anything on them the cost balloons real fast to $3500 +. Add taxes and you are paying a lot. So a semi custom at that price is not bad and Ruger makes one tough pistol. Discount it a bit and it is in like flynn.
1911 Heaven has 5 brand new Baers listed under $2k, and another 5 just over that mark on their site right now, and the most expensive one is $2900.https://cj1911heaven.com/LesBaerInventory.html

I ordered a new Hemi from CJ less than a year ago spec'd the way I wanted it and it was $2325. With prices like that on new Baers, why even consider a $2500 Ruger? Hell, my new $800 Colt Competition is better fit than that thing. I have nothing against Ruger, I own several including a new .308 Precision Rifle I bought last month, but I only paid $799 for it.

Ruger needs to stick with what they do best - solid quality, no frills guns at reasonable price points.
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:11 PM
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I paid just over 1400 after shipping and transfer fee for my DW Silverback 10mm brand new. Not a custom, I know, but has the same cosmetic features as the gun pictured.
I don't see this going well for Ruger when you see what else your $$$ gets you.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:26 AM
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I paid a lot less than $2500 for my Koenig Ruger and it feels as good as, and shoots as good as, the Wilson Combat CQB that I paid a $1000 more for. As for Les Baer, I agree my Premier II is a real bargain when compared to other high-grade 1911's.
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:37 AM
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I paid just over 1400 after shipping and transfer fee for my DW Silverback 10mm brand new.
Correction. Just over $1500.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:28 AM
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I paid a lot less than $2500 for my Koenig Ruger and it feels as good as, and shoots as good as, the Wilson Combat CQB that I paid a $1000 more for. As for Les Baer, I agree my Premier II is a real bargain when compared to other high-grade 1911's.
How's the parts quality, and fitting?
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:50 AM
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When you look at the Prime model from Alchemy i’d Say that for less than $100 difference i’d Be really hard pressed to buy the Ruger over the ACW piece, i’ve Had the fortune to handle the ACW gun’s and can tell you that they are as nice or better than anything i’ve ever handled, pure artwork in my opinion. Rob does give an accuracy garantee by the way.

Ruger is truly jumping into the deep end of the pool, I like the Rugers I have butthere’s absolutely no comparison to anything ACW..... As they say “we’ll see”
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Old 01-30-2019, 06:25 PM
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I think every manufacture that makes 1911's should have a real Custom Shop and a
High end line of 1911 custom pistols . Why not competition is a good thing . 2500.00
for a good hand made well crafted 1911 is in the ball park .

I remember when SACS Professionals were 2500.00 and they were a steal . Alchemy
Customs has a great pistol for 2600.00 that is a knock out 1911
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Old 08-28-2019, 06:35 AM
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Just a 2 cents worth opinion. This past weekend at a local gun shops big summer bash, I got to send a number of rounds downrange with a Koenig/Ruger 9mm 1911. Damn what a nice gun! It was a demo model so it had been used a bit I would guess, (and that makes it even better) but the trigger was sublime. Light and crisp. The parts felt tight and super smooth in operation. Absolute accuracy was hard to determine as it was a demo day kind of scenario with a lot of people around, but I felt it easily went where I wanted. I am absolutely no expert, but in a quick look and shoot, I can't imagine it could have worked or shot any better. On that very quick analysis, I couldn't tell what you could possibly improve on no matter how much you wanted to spend. Of course, ultimate length of service was impossible to comprehend from that short look. I have always appreciated Rugers for what they are. Good working mans guns at a good price, without the expensive fancy final finishing. All of my Ruger products work reliably and are more accurate than I am. This Custom Shop edition felt like a whole different level of refinement.. I say, go Ruger!
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