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Old 06-30-2020, 12:58 PM
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Removing Case from Shellholder with Sideways Primer

Iím still learning, but......

Sometimes a primer goes into a case sideways and then I canít get the case out of the shellholder. Is there a trick or proper way to SAFELY remove it.

Hadnít had much problem with sideways inserts, until I used a box of Federal Premium Match Large Pistol primers. And I canít figure out if itís something Iím doing wrong.
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Old 06-30-2020, 01:11 PM
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Run it through your depriming die.
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Old 06-30-2020, 01:18 PM
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Run it through your depriming die.

But " I can't get the case out of the shellholder ". He said.

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Old 06-30-2020, 01:40 PM
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I assume your at the priming stage, I just mush it real hard and plug my ears
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:23 PM
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I assume your at the priming stage, I just mush it real hard and plug my ears
Yeah, that’s what I have done. Just doesn’t seem safe. Plus, one time I had already dropped powder in it, but got it out without having to mush it.

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Old 06-30-2020, 02:48 PM
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What caliber and what type of press?
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:45 PM
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What caliber and what type of press?
45 acp and RCBS Turret Press.

Iíve gotten more sideways issues with the large pistol than the small pistol primers for 38 supers and 380s that Iíve reloaded. Which, I guess, makes sense.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:44 PM
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While I have not used the RCBS Turret press, you should be able to remove the shell plate, and that should allow you to remove the case.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:27 PM
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But " I can't get the case out of the shellholder ". He said.

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Screwing in a depriming die doesn't involve the shellholder.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:41 PM
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While I have not used the RCBS Turret press, you should be able to remove the shell plate, and that should allow you to remove the case.
Yes, I can remove the shellholder from the press, but primer being inserted sideways doesnít allow the case to slide out of the shellholder.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:45 PM
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Yes, I can remove the shellholder from the press, but primer being inserted sideways doesn’t allow the case to slide out of the shellholder.
Umm, poke mangled primer out through the flash hole with a straightened paper clip (nail?) or such.
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:45 PM
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As has been said.

Just deprime it like a just fired case. It could go off on you so precautions should be taken. But if you go easy on the stroke it likely will not even go off.
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Old 06-30-2020, 06:37 PM
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Yup.. I have a de-priming rod from MidwayUSA that I use if needed. Remove the die and de-prime by going through the open hole on top. Or possibly slide the shell holder and case off the press and poke it out with gentle poking/tapping..

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101119403?pid=274540
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:37 PM
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While I have not used the RCBS Turret press, you should be able to remove the shell plate, and that should allow you to remove the case.
Nope. That won't work on this press.
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Old 06-30-2020, 10:13 PM
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Yeah - I was thinking shell plate, but here it's a shell holder.

Seems to be three options- don't give it sudden impact, just slow gradual pressure.

1. Put it back through the sizer/decapper as others have said.
2. Mash it harder to flatten it enough to allow removal from the shell holder
3. Remove shell holder and poke it out manually.

Eye and ear protection should be worn and don't have your face or anything near.

Consider an RCBS Automatic Priming Tool for future priming. It still uses the shell holder, but gives good feel and power.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:37 AM
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Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback.

I have been depriming the cases before I clean them, and therefore removed the depriming pin from my sizing dies.

Sometimes, I don’t realize the primer is sideways until I’ve dropped powder and once I had already seated the bullet. Therefore, I have to be sure the powder is out before I start messing with trying to get the case off the shellholder.

I must sometimes get sloppy when inserting the primer and I’m not sure what sloppiness that is.

I will definitely check into the RCBS automatic priming tool.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:47 AM
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Buttheads got it. Just put a nail or something in there and tap it out. Be wary that the nail may come out the opposite way you hit it, and with a bit more speed!
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Old 07-01-2020, 07:33 AM
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I just run it through to sizing die again. Maybe I am just lucky, or it may happen on my next attempt, but in 43 years of reloading I have never had a live primer go off, either a crushed sideways primer or depriming a live primer.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:24 PM
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Iím still learning, but......

Sometimes a primer goes into a case sideways and then I canít get the case out of the shellholder. Is there a trick or proper way to SAFELY remove it.

Hadnít had much problem with sideways inserts, until I used a box of Federal Premium Match Large Pistol primers. And I canít figure out if itís something Iím doing wrong.
I pick it out w/ a screwdriver or knife.
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:40 PM
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But " I can't get the case out of the shellholder ". He said.

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A couple thoughts; the case stuck in a shell holder more often than not can be removed from the press, case and shell holder together. Besides, the OP doesn't have to remove anything just put a sizing/decapping die in position...
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Old 07-01-2020, 05:48 PM
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I have pulled them out with pliers. You loose the case of course.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:08 AM
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Ummm, itís a turret....so just turn it.
Why is this turning into a hard thing??
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:41 AM
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On my Dillon, if this happens, it will not turn as the primer is not fully seated and hangs things up.
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:50 AM
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On my Dillon, if this happens, it will not turn as the primer is not fully seated and hangs things up.
^^This^^

I sometimes have to force the casing out of the press.
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