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Old 06-04-2020, 09:35 AM
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Great Tucker Carlson monologue

I don't know where to put this Tucker Carlson monologue. It doesn't really fit into any of the subforum titles. But it is very important info about what is really happening with police and killings, devoid of the lies and hysteria. Actual stats, which can be used in constructive conversations. Please watch to the end (15 minutes long). I put it in this subforum just because dealing with mobs all over the country fits in with a national disaster.

The link above is to his monologue page on Fox News. The one I am specifically referring to is called Kneeling will never be enough for the mob.
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Old 06-04-2020, 04:32 PM
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Movement to defund police gaining steam.

So the very people who are bringing about the chaos are, of course, the ones behind this. If successful, it would create a condition of anarchy in large metro areas. They would devolve into local gang control. Still, the controllers would need a way to keep a lid on things. Think Robocop (Detroit), Judge Dredd (east coast Megacity One), killer robots and drones (Elysium).....they telegraph their moves.

Another article on this. Imagine what this will do to the morale of serving police officers. I predict accelerated levels of retirement and just leaving are about to happen.
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Old 06-04-2020, 07:03 PM
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LA... where its nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get a CCW license for self defense, and now, they are slashing the law enforcement budget.

Geez... what could go wrong?

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam
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LA... where its nearly impossible for law abiding citizens to get a CCW license for self defense, and now, they are slashing the law enforcement budget.

Geez... what could go wrong?

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam
Remember Stallone's Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes? The completely useless cops in a completely PC Los Angeles? Good for laughs--but again, a logical extension of current events.
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Remember Stallone's Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes? The completely useless cops in a completely PC Los Angeles? Good for laughs--but again, a logical extension of current events.
I never saw that movie. I'll look for it on streaming services.
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Old 06-04-2020, 08:37 PM
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Police authority comes directly from the population it serves. Lose the trust of that population and you lose the authority. Defunding is just that-- a loss of authority.
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Police authority comes directly from the population it serves. Lose the trust of that population and you lose the authority. Defunding is just that-- a loss of authority.
I hope you understand what is really going on here. This is a "cancel culture" move, and it is designed to bring in complete chaos. Notice that it is the Left advocating it, and in Leftist-run cities. They themselves, as mentally ill individuals, are in chaos and they want everything to be chaos, to validate themselves. They think that as a mob they are powerful. They will be dispensed with as soon as they are no longer useful. This is what totalitarian regimes, by any name, always do, so the mob will not turn on them once they realize they will never be given power, and were just duped.

All the dystopian movies listed above, plus many many others, (Soylent Green, I am Legend, The Book of Eli, etc etc etc), depict societies that became that way because of exactly the kinds of things we are going through now, especially this year. It has all come to a head.

Stay vigilant. The election is five very, very long months away.
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So you're suggesting that the Trump administration is a totalitarian regime? I'm not understanding you.

I just noticed this: https://imgur.com/gallery/p3LRF1L

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What about "cancel culture", "the Left" and "Leftist-run cities" would make you think I was talking about Trump?
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Oh, I see.

You get your theories from movies and you want to argue. I thought you had a point to make.

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New monologue by Carlson: Liberal activists now want to defund the police. Link to his monologues here.
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The Big Lie about George Floyd's death is that these protests are for him...to honor him. But that is pure bull****. The protests and the rioting and looting were planned and paid for months ago. Paid for the George Soros and approved of by the Democrats. Floyd's death is just the excuse they were looking for to put their plans into play. This has nothing to do with Floyd...this is about attacking the Republicans and Donald Trump. The Democrats and the paid rioters are using Floyd's death to ignite a race war intended to convince the black Americans who support President Trump, not to vote for him. George Floyd's death is tragic. What the liberals are using if for is disgraceful. But they are willing to do this and more to get black Americans away from supporting Trump, and back onto the welfare plantation.
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:04 PM
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The police need to pull back en masse. Time for the blue flu in epidemic portions in those left wing, demo controlled cities. Maybe a month at least. Let those places see what they get. See how long it takes before the same people are crying for police protection. Let the EMS and Fire personnel join them since they won't be able to call for police when things go south or people attack.

If they want to defund., which all it what it is, eliminate the police departments, then also cancel EMS and Fire Services. Along with that make it illegal for those politicians and rich elitist, the actors, Gates types, and all, to have private security and bodyguard details. No police also means no private security forces to protect any of these fools. That also should mean no Secret Service protection for anyone who is in the Senate or Congress that represents any city, county, or state who dispands and/or defunds LE. You get as much protection as the person who cleans the offices at night in your districts. You also have to follow the same laws they do regarding self defense.

As someone else noted. I can see the possibility of subscription based, private police. If you aren't a subscriber, you have no police protection. Same for EMS and Fire. I'm also thinking all this call for eliminating the police is how you ended up with places like NYC and LA being prison cities as in the Escape From movies.
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Without the Secret Service, the president wouldn't last half an hour.
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:56 PM
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I listened to that Carlson monologue and all I have to say is what a tool. He said he and everyone else didn't know what the demonstrators want because they never said.

Excuse me?? Everyone knows they started demonstrating against police use of excessive force. Police killing black people with impunity. And they said so. People all over the country know this, and it why people were joining the demonstration. Except Tucker. So the fact that he doesn't understand what is going on all over the country, he feels mandated to create his own reason why these riots are happening. Simply amazing.

And the other amazing thing is the police. They know people are demonstrating against police brutality and are being told by their superiors to be on their best behavior because everyone is watching....and they still can't do it. They still can't stop brutalizing people and then lying about it on reports. They just did it again with the old guy being pushed down and falling back hitting his head on the sidewalk. Supervisor wouldn't let officer attend to him, made everyone walk by and then lied about it on his report.

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Without the Secret Service, the president wouldn't last half an hour.
He'd probably have plenty of volunteers to cover him. Plus, as CIF, that would make him the exception for a protection detail. Perhaps SEAL or Delta. You know, one of those loopholes the dems are always yelling about.
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Ok, going back to what triggered this chaos... is it just me or is this even the same guy? Taken four days apart supposedly. Check out the hairline and the shape of the ear in the profile. Also, how did his hair grow that much in four days. Something seems fishy.
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Police killing black people with impunity.
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Are you high, or did you just bump your head? There were exactly 10 black people killed by police in 2019. Out of 325 Million people.

Impunity? Out of the four that were not from a direct assault on the officer, two of the officers were indicted.

Guess you think there's "systemic racism" too, huh? Pffft. Talk about a tool.
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You are witnessing the start of the "Next Civil War" (how many posts about this earlier this year focusing on 2A as the driver), BUT the fight over 2A is not the main reason. The destruction of the rule of law is though, so owning guns is an important tool nevertheless.

The big lefty Cities are "gone" mini-separate countries at this point, only loosely associated with America of old, especially when they want funds from the Feds LOL. They are owned by the Socialist and their supporting Mob's. And have their own rule of law, moral-values (or lack there of), and even language to some degree, based on Socialist precepts. This didn't happen overnight, but the Socialist stranglehold in the cities is accelerating in recent years and will get much, much, worse after these riots as the Lefty Politicians continue to appease/support the Mob.

What happens from here? Hard to say, we can stay in this state for many years. But if the Lefty gets hold of the Federal Government again the disintegration of rule of law will spread out of the cities and all over the country.

The rule of law defines a country, without it, you don't have freedom, economic prosperity, and much of any good.

Good news is, something like 91% of American's support sending in the N-Guard to restore order in the cities, and something like 50+% support sending in the military...So if POTUS messages well about this issue it will be another thing which gets him re--elected.

Actually, after I thought about this post we are clearly at the point where all entries of the word "Socialist" above should be replaced with "Marxists".
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Geeze, now they have a video a cop (Buffalo) in riot gear shoving a 75 year old man to the floor. The man was talking to other cops there (non-threatening) and the shoving cop decided to take action I guess. He fell like a tree even hit his head on the concrete although the shove was relatively minor...I do realize it is a crazy situation out there, but I think they need to administer some IQ tests to (some) cops - pass or fail: Should you shove a 75 year old man to the ground who is just speaking to your cop-buddies in a non threatening way? Yes or no?...These stupid cops are making it so hard and dangerous for the 98% of the cops who do their job with aplomb!

White (cop) on white (Grandpa), so not even Al Sharpton can use this incident for race-baiting.

The cop has been suspended BTW.
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I listened to that Carlson monologue and all I have to say is what a tool. He said he and everyone else didn't know what the demonstrators want because they never said.

Excuse me?? Everyone knows they started demonstrating against police use of excessive force. Police killing black people with impunity. And they said so. People all over the country know this, and it why people were joining the demonstration. Except Tucker. So the fact that he doesn't understand what is going on all over the country, he feels mandated to create his own reason why these riots are happening. Simply amazing.

And the other amazing thing is the police. They know people are demonstrating against police brutality and are being told by their superiors to be on their best behavior because everyone is watching....and they still can't do it. They still can't stop brutalizing people and then lying about it on reports. They just did it again with the old guy being pushed down and falling back hitting his head on the sidewalk. Supervisor wouldn't let officer attend to him, made everyone walk by and then lied about it on his report.
I would expect this will serve as further reason why the police will need to pay particular attention to this type of issue.

As much as I respect the police and those who chose to serve no profession has a monopoly on good or bad, or competency or ineptness. Police because of their profession and great authority must be held responsible for their actions. Your going to not only have good and bad cops but your also going to have good and bad departments based on these very reasons as well. Some people just aren't as competent as others. However maybe more will be forced by this to do a better job, but I think some reform is long time coming as well. Everywhere from selection, training, and retention. That and the justice system with regards to what acts police can be held responsible and what actions they can be charged for. Due process but delays in the length of time it takes to charge these officers and these bad acts really needs to be looked at as well.

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We know that there are legitimate non-violent protesters against police brutality. They are very mistaken about the prevalence, which is very low. The stats are available to prove this. But they either don't care, don't want to know, or are incapable of critical thinking.

There are others who are rioting and looting. The looters are just taking advantage of chaos to get free stuff, and are just hoodlums. The rioters mostly fall into one or another category: they are operatives being paid by Leftist foundations to stir all this up, or they are clueless, naive, indoctrinated LARPers believing they are heroes.

At this point I believe the major cities are probably irretrievably lost; the only hope for them is that all the evil acts and words from the Left are going to show even more people who might have sympathized with them that they are merely self-destructive, vindictive and delusional. I think that by now, though, the great majority of people who are going to wake up to their evil have already done so. There will be a hard core of seriously screwed-up individuals who will not. They have chosen the left-hand path.
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Antifa, BLM, Refuse Fascism are the Left's paramilitary. Good article by Dinesh D'Souza.

Project Veritas infiltrates Portland Antifa.
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