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Old 05-30-2020, 05:03 PM
voodooranger voodooranger is offline
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ok, talk me into a defender as my main edc




is it reliable?


if questionable ? what makes it, mags? or recoil springs? or????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckytHJ5NbS4


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commander
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and use them, as they are my favorite firearms---i shoot them the best, they feel right, etc etc etc
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Old 05-30-2020, 06:54 PM
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I have a 2002 in 45ACP I bought new that year and carried a few years. In 2010 I bought a 9mm for my wife as I thought she might like it but she did not. I liked it enough I have kept it as a range toy but not carried it.

I live in a more rural environment and went to a Commander to carry mainly for the longer sight radius.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:00 PM
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I had one years ago, it wasn't reliable.


https://forum.m1911.org/content.php?...are-unreliable
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:03 PM
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I would also bring to your attention...
the Colt CCO and CCU "Officers" models,
with the Commander-length slide/barrel on top of the shorter compact frame.

What is your caliber of choice?
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:21 PM
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I’ve carried a New Agent for 8 years and a Defender for 5. Both were very reliable with all .45acp ammo, ball and JHP.
Never had an issue with feeding or ejection.
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Old 05-30-2020, 07:38 PM
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is it reliable?


if questionable ? what makes it, mags? or recoil springs? or????
You left out "operator". Short 1911's require a strong backstop to operate reliably. Some problems are due to the issues you've called out. But there are also folks who aren't able to make a small 1911 run because their shooting form sucks up too much recoil.
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Old 05-30-2020, 08:07 PM
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I can't. My New Agent is a whole lot to handle with "defensive" .45ACP ammunition. I think 9mm would be better.

Reliable every time with recoil spring assembly replaced every 1,000 rounds. Super cool to look at and carry. Replaced the Dupont Delrin grooved MSH with a WC checkered aluminum one.
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Old 05-30-2020, 08:33 PM
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I don’t know if my Defender is reliable enough to last through a prolonged firefight during an apocalypse. However I do know that it’s reliable enough to last though two mags since that’d be all I have with me while CCW.
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:07 PM
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Never a hick-up. Although I prefer to carry a Government model, my Defender eats up all ammo (HP, SWC, RNFP). She’s a very solid blaster!

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Old 05-30-2020, 09:58 PM
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I've carried a stainless Colt Defender daily for the past seven years. When I bought it, I was fully aware of the reputation of Officer's type 1911's to suffer reliability issues so I was prepared for the worst. When I began shooting the gun I was waiting for problems that never came. After around 4000 rounds of ball and HP's the gun has never malfunctioned. It is accurate as can be expected, and it carries like it's not even there.
When I acquired my Defender, the first thing I did with it was fit a Wilson Combat extended thumb safety, and have a trigger job done on it. I also fit a short aluminum trigger to the Defender. I carried it off and on for a few years as an off duty weapon. When I changed jobs, and went to a plainclothes assignment, I decided to get the Defender upgraded just a bit more, and make it my duty gun. I had my local gunsmith checker the front strap, serrate the top of the slide, fit a steel feed ramp insert, fit a Wilson Combat rounded MSH, and an upswept S&A grip safety. He also refit the barrel. I then had all the stainless steel components finished in Ion Bond, and reanodized the aluminum receiver black. I have all the confidence in the world in this Colt, and will own it until the end.
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Old 05-31-2020, 05:12 AM
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I own a 2013 Lightweight Defender in .45 ACP, I have never had an issue with it.

I do not shoot it as much as my full size Colts though so I do not know how they would hold up with thousands of rounds through them, but then again, that is not what they were designed for.
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Old 05-31-2020, 08:57 AM
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Never an issue with mine.
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Old 05-31-2020, 09:59 AM
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i just bought a 9mm Defender to do just that. I have an older 45 version so I will have one in each caliber. One thing this shutdown BS has done is give me some time to shoot. I dug out my 1911s that haven’t seen daylight in quite a while. I learned or remember quickly why I like them so much. I carry a Sig 365, G42, and just can’t get used to the plastic pistol thing.

I started with 1911s, shot 1911s and am good with 1911s. Capacity is less important to me than natural point ability and accuracy I get with these guns. I like safeties.
Interesting is now I have both the difference in size and loaded weight between a defender and P365 is really minimal. Watching the news the past few days has made this a real life issue for me.
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Old 06-03-2020, 07:22 PM
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I carry one daily. Great gun. I have a pair of talo night defenders.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:07 PM
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I carry one daily. Great gun. I have a pair of talo night defenders.
One of each caliber or both of the same caliber?
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:19 PM
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I have one. Reliable, yes. I sent it off to Alchemy for ramp polish and dehorn. They did a great job.

Do I carry it now? no. I am more likely to carry M&P Shield, Compact, or FS. Yeah, I know sacrilege on a 1911 site :-)
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:10 PM
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i have no experience with the Defender but to me it seems like a good try.
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:22 PM
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My defender has been dead reliable. As another poster stated above I would look hard at the CCO. Officer frame on a commander slide. For me the benefits for the Defender end with the shorter grip frame. That’s a big reason my EDC is a CCO.
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Old 06-04-2020, 06:16 PM
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I love mine, it is the first gen and has been dead nuts reliAble and accurate. Has been my carry gun since they first came up.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:31 PM
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1911s are awesome but the sad truth is you'd be better in most instances with any of a number of Glocks. They're just hard to beat as genuine fighting guns.

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Old 07-17-2020, 06:25 PM
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I am on my second Defender in .45. The first was reliable enough that I passed it on to my son who is a beer rep and travels to some rough areas. I bought another and it has been completely reliable as well. And it can be pocket carried, but it is too heavy for gym shorts. I love it in .45 but, if 9mm is on the menu, I prefer higher capacity options.
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Old 07-17-2020, 07:05 PM
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1911s are awesome but the sad truth is you'd be better in most instances with any of a number of Glocks. They're just hard to beat as genuine fighting guns.

Number of people shoot themselves reholstering a glock in an IWB holster catching the trigger on the holster. 1911's are safer in that regard as the trigger cannot be activated until the safety is disengaged.
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Old 07-18-2020, 07:28 AM
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I've owned a Defender in 9mm for 5 years +/- now and have yet to have any issues. It rides in a Highnoon leather holster and hangs on a Mernickle belt. I'm very happy.
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Old 07-18-2020, 07:55 AM
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As I posted earlier, I am the satisfied owner of a .45 ACP Defender. But if I were in the market for one today, I would consider a Defender chambered for 9mm since it should be a bit easier to shoot under stress.
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Old 07-18-2020, 08:32 PM
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is it reliable?

if questionable ? what makes it, mags? or recoil springs? or????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckytHJ5NbS4

looking to get the trifecta of colts

defender
commander
full size

and use them, as they are my favorite firearms---i shoot them the best, they feel right, etc etc etc
There was a year or two during which a Colts' "Defender" was my main CCW. Then went back to a full-size frame, either gov't or commander: with only average sized hands, my entire hands do not fit on the general officer's model frame of a "Defender".
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