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Old 04-01-2017, 08:49 AM
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Stick powders in a Dillon 550B?

I'd like to start reloading .30-06 for my Garand in my Dillon 550B. IMR 4895 and 4064 seem to be the preferred powders. I'm just getting into Service Rifle matches, so accuracy counts. How well do these stick powders meter in a Dillon? Is there a ball powder that I should consider as well?
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:28 AM
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I know of no powder measure that will throw stick powders spot-on - I think the Hornady powder measure from the LnL might fit your Dillon and is rumored to be better but still won't throw spot-on.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:35 AM
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I know of no powder measure that will throw stick powders spot-on - I think the Hornady powder measure from the LnL might fit your Dillon and is rumored to be better but still won't throw spot-on.
Pretty much my experience as well; you'd be better off with a ball powder if you want to use a powder measure, especially a drop-through. I used Win 748 for my .308 and 30/06 many years ago, but when going for high accuracy, especially in the .300 Win. Mag. I had to hand measure the stick powders due to "bridging" in the drop-through dies.
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:21 PM
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I run mine single stage fashion with stick powders, I get 4064 to throw within .2grn in mine, consistency and DO NOT baby the press! work it like you mean it! to get close, you'll have to weigh each charge but topping off will be minimal.
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Old 04-01-2017, 03:39 PM
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Dillon recommends NOT using extruded (stick) powders in their progressive presses.

Winchester 748 throws spot on for me through the 2 RCBS and 4 Dillon measures.

As for accuracy, this powder was originally named 748BR (Bench Rest) for a reason. It still shoots with the latest designer powders (IMR 4064 and Varget) in my 7.62 x 51 AR10, and my two 308 bolt guns. Because of this both 4064 and Varget will be phased out when they're used up.
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Old 04-01-2017, 04:37 PM
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The only way I have found to get consistent charge weights with stick powder is to set the powder measure 0.2-0.3gn shy and using a powder trickler into the scale pan to get it dead nuts. There are some stick powders offered as "Short Cut" that are supposed to meter a bit better, but I have yet to try them.
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Old 04-02-2017, 01:32 AM
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The only way I have found to get consistent charge weights with stick powder is to set the powder measure 0.2-0.3gn shy and using a powder trickler into the scale pan to get it dead nuts. There are some stick powders offered as "Short Cut" that are supposed to meter a bit better, but I have yet to try them.
Ditto... and short cut stick powder does throw a little better but it's not close to ball powder's accuracy.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:39 AM
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Do a search for Dillon Powder Measure Tips.

I use Varget and don't have any issues.
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I stepped away from loading for M1 and 1903s on my 550B to type this post. I am able to get + or - .2 grain with Varget. Tom's mention of Dillon powder measure tips is solid advice.

I also use 4064 with completely acceptable results, and will be using it next for a different '06 load, likely tomorrow.
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Old 04-04-2017, 04:14 PM
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IF you slow your handle speed so the powder bar takes one full second to travel from one side to the other, then bridging is not likely to occur in a 30 Caliber case. I would expect your charges of 4895 to be within +/- .3 grain, which is far more precise than what you need for service rifle competition. This is more accurate than most match ammunition powder charges.
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IF you slow your handle speed so the powder bar takes one full second to travel from one side to the other, then bridging is not likely to occur in a 30 Caliber case. I would expect your charges of 4895 to be within +/- .3 grain, which is far more precise than what you need for service rifle competition. This is more accurate than most match ammunition powder charges.
Very interesting to know, thank you for that tip! Love to see a vendor representative present on the forum!
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Old 04-04-2017, 05:42 PM
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Reloader 10X throws just fine when I take my time
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:41 PM
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When I was shooting Service Rifle, I tried using IMR4895 in my Dillon 550B. It was an exercise in futility. Accurate 2520 might work well in your Dillon, and it should keep your portfolio pressure safe for an M1.
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Old 04-04-2017, 09:24 PM
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With my 650 with a Dillon powder measure, I use Varget for my .223/5.56 loads. I take my time to make each pull is the same. I get .5" groups at 100 yards via my ARs.
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Old 04-05-2017, 01:42 PM
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I use a RCBS Uniflow on my Dillon 650 and it throws Varget very well. It might cut the odd grain, but that's not a deal breaker. The weights are within 0.1 gr. Bridging is always a concern, so get your dremel out and polish everything you can reach with it. Put a baffle in the hopper and run a pound of powder through it to get everything coated with graphite. Works like a dream.
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