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Old 11-16-2019, 07:16 PM
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Michigan Firearm Deer season

I hope anyone in Michigan who is deer hunting is having a great and safe hunt. Late this afternoon I took a decent 8 point with my new to me Ruger American 450 Bushmaster. The shot was only at 100 yards, but it was devastating to the buck. To say that I am pleased with the gun is an understatement.
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:22 AM
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Nice buck and memories you have there.
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:27 PM
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Nice buck and memories you have there.
Thank you!! His coming thru my way was a bit of a surprise. For all of the game cameras around the area, no one had seen him in weeks. DNR said heís 3 1/2 yrs old....weighed 151 lbs dressed.
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:13 PM
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Nice sized buck! Meat in the freezer.
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:24 PM
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Nice buck, seems like the 450 Is getting quite a following here for deer.
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:25 PM
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Nice buck.

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Old 11-18-2019, 09:12 AM
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Nice buck, seems like the 450 Is getting quite a following here for deer.
Yeah, thereís getting to be quite a lot of these 450ís out there. Most of my friends have them now. I didnít know until this morning if anyone had jumped on the 350 Legends bandwagon. Turns out one of my friends has one.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:43 AM
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Yeah, thereís getting to be quite a lot of these 450ís out there. Most of my friends have them now. I didnít know until this morning if anyone had jumped on the 350 Legends bandwagon. Turns out one of my friends has one.
Interesting, my daughter just told me a couple days ago that next year she plans on switching from the 450 to the 350 Legend.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:03 PM
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Interesting, my daughter just told me a couple days ago that next year she plans on switching from the 450 to the 350 Legend.
Iíll be sticking with the 450. The 350 makes sense for folks who are a little more recoil sensitive. But Iím 6ft 4 inches and 250 lbs, so the recoil from the 450 doesnít bother me at all. Plus, the 450 has a real advantage beyond 200 yards.
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Interesting, my daughter just told me a couple days ago that next year she plans on switching from the 450 to the 350 Legend.
I’ll be sticking with the 450. The 350 makes sense for folks who are a little more recoil sensitive. But I’m 6ft 4 inches and 250 lbs, so the recoil from the 450 doesn’t bother me at all. Plus, the 450 has a real advantage beyond 200 yards.
Yep, love the 450B, exactly the right mix for me. That is a great buck. I got one two days ago, but mine was smaller than yours, I will post a picture of it when I get to my desk top. I am hunting with my son tonight, he is using my .450 Bushy. Getting ready to head out the door right now
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:18 AM
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Yep, love the 450B, exactly the right mix for me. That is a great buck. I got one two days ago, but mine was smaller than yours, I will post a picture of it when I get to my desk top. I am hunting with my son tonight, he is using my .450 Bushy. Getting ready to head out the door right now
Happy Thanksgiving!! Hereís to hoping that you had a successful hunt with your son. I have not gone out since opening weekend. Itís been plenty warm and I prefer cold. I will be going out during muzzle loader or late antlerless season. Hopefully by then it will be colder.
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Iíll be sticking with the 450. The 350 makes sense for folks who are a little more recoil sensitive. But Iím 6ft 4 inches and 250 lbs, so the recoil from the 450 doesnít bother me at all. Plus, the 450 has a real advantage beyond 200 yards.
Past 200 yds, both cartridges drop like a rock. The MPBR of the 350 and 450 are 185 and 191 yds respectively. At 250....both are down over a foot. You're fooling yourself if you think either cartridge is viable past 200 yds.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:11 PM
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Past 200 yds, both cartridges drop like a rock. The MPBR of the 350 and 450 are 185 and 191 yds respectively. At 250....both are down over a foot. You're fooling yourself if you think either cartridge is viable past 200 yds.
I understand completely what you are saying about the bullet drop. But with todays offerings in optics with bullet drop compensators, it is not much of a concern to me. The issue is down range energy. The 450 clearly has the advantage. I have several friends who took deer with their 450ís last year at ranges from 250 to 275 yards with just one shot. Dropped them on the spot. So while I definitely would prefer a closer shot, I would not hesitate on a longer shot at the right deer. YMMV
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Old 11-28-2019, 09:37 PM
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Nice buck: lots better than the deer I've seen.
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Old 11-30-2019, 05:48 PM
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I understand completely what you are saying about the bullet drop. But with todays offerings in optics with bullet drop compensators, it is not much of a concern to me. The issue is down range energy. The 450 clearly has the advantage. I have several friends who took deer with their 450ís last year at ranges from 250 to 275 yards with just one shot. Dropped them on the spot. So while I definitely would prefer a closer shot, I would not hesitate on a longer shot at the right deer. YMMV
I think it is Leupold who has a BDC specifically for .450 Bushmaster. I can hit 220 yards pretty easily with my standard 3x9 (Hornady 250 Black Box). My scope was built before they came out with the .450 BCD... I would have liked one, but where I hunt with the .450B, there is no need for a longer shot. Of course that is when I use my identical Scout in .308
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:05 PM
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I love the Bush

My son visited for a week and he wanted to use my .450 Bushmaster the first week of deer season. Even though he saw a lot of legal deer he decided to wait for a bigger buck. Unfortunately that didnít happen. But I got two. Both with.308 within 30 yards or so. I will be hunting again with the .450B next week. We expect the Rut in two weeks. I can kill one more buck, wish me luck.
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Past 200 yds, both cartridges drop like a rock. The MPBR of the 350 and 450 are 185 and 191 yds respectively. At 250....both are down over a foot. You're fooling yourself if you think either cartridge is viable past 200 yds.
I agree, if you are planning to kill deer past 200 yards then both of these big bullets should not be considered as optimal.

The thing is: hunting is a Sport. People hunt with spears, bows, pistols and PCC. In my opinion all of these weapons add a layer of compromise in performance, but they do add an extra layer of Sport. I don’t have a problem with this... kill deer with respect and with what ever you like. But know your, and your weapons limitations.

I think the niche for 350 over 450 is for girls. Or, for use with a suppressor.

Anyone looking for a brush gun, something handy, powerful, accurate and easy to carry, should look at the .450BM with a short barrel. My new favorite.

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Old 12-01-2019, 07:39 AM
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I think it is Leupold who has a BDC specifically for .450 Bushmaster. I can hit 220 yards pretty easily with my standard 3x9 (Hornady 250 Black Box). My scope was built before they came out with the .450 BCD... I would have liked one, but where I hunt with the .450B, there is no need for a longer shot. Of course that is when I use my identical Scout in .308
Yes, Leupold has a scope for the 450. Iím not exactly sure how it works. A friend described that it comes with specific turrets that once sighted and zeroed, you simply turn the turret to the specific range. Again, I may be way off on that since I have no first hand experience with that scope. I have a Nikon BDC. It has 4 circles along the vertical axis below the cross hairs, with each one representing a relative distance. Nikon has a web site and a phone app that you plug the specific scope and ammo combination into to get the corresponding distances for each circle. Iíll try to attach the photos of what Iím using.

I seem to only be able to load one pic. Iíll try the other in another post
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iPad wonít cooperate to show the next pic. Iíll try later.
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Old 12-01-2019, 07:51 AM
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Finally got it. I have my scope set on 9X and here are the corresponding distances of each circle.
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Yes, Leupold has a scope for the 450... A friend described that it comes with specific turrets that once sighted and zeroed, you simply turn the turret to the specific range.
Yep that is how it works
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