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Old 03-03-2020, 05:53 AM
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VVN310 for 55 ACP
VVN330 for 9mm
My preferences as well. Although I have a good quantity of N320 for 9mm that performs really well, I intend to work some loads for 9mm with N330 when I have a chance to pick some up on my next quantity order from Powder Valley. I still lament the absence of SR4756.
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VVN310 for 45 ACP
VVN330 for 9mm
Sorry, I had to add a little red to your post. I wouldn’t be able to sleep!
Stuff is sure nice, but I do far to much close range piddly stuff to “waste” the money. Rifle is an entirely different matter.....
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Old 03-03-2020, 11:38 AM
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I been reading about a lot of different pistol powders. I'm currently using Titegroup for 45acp and will be loading a lot of 9mm later this week. I know Titegroup isn't a fan favorite for how fast it burns and how dirty it is. I do agree, it's super dirty stuff. I think I have about a pound left to use, going to try something else that is hopefully cleaner. Looking at a few different ones, HP-38, AA#2 and I been reading some good stuff on shooter world clean shot/major pistol/ultimate pistol. Would just be for mass plinking at the range. Let me know your thoughts.
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Rereading your initial message.....
You really want to load a mass quantity of ammo using an untested recipe?
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Rereading your initial message.....
You really want to load a mass quantity of ammo using an untested recipe?
I didn't read it that way... I think his intent is to find/develop an inexpensive plinker recipe and looking for a few suggestions to try (before loading it in mass)
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Rereading your initial message.....
You really want to load a mass quantity of ammo using an untested recipe?
I didn't read it that way... I think his intent is to find/develop an inexpensive plinker recipe and looking for a few suggestions to try (before loading it in mass)
You are correct. I'm never one to develop anything untested, I don't try my luck that way. Looking for alternative powders others are using. I'm not pro, match shooting out anything. Just looking for a good recipe to burn ammo at the range and have fun. I currently have several powders I can try, Titegroup, HP-38, Power Pistol. But also wanted to see what others are using. Been reading more about Shooters World Powders as well. My local options aren't terrific for buying powder, so I'm at the mercy of online which of course has shipping and hazmat fees unless there is a rare special being ran
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Old 03-03-2020, 04:23 PM
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Am shocked no one has mentioned the universal pistol Powder: Unique.
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Please don't talk about Unique. It is already getting hard to find locally.
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Old 03-03-2020, 08:24 PM
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I thought that Unique was marketed as a shotgun powder.

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Am shocked no one has mentioned the universal pistol Powder: Unique.
That just happens to be pretty popular for certain hand gun rounds.
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That just happens to be pretty popular for certain hand gun rounds.
Lots of the shotgun powders of years ago were very useful in pistol cartridges; as a matter of fact, it was generally thought of as "if it is a shotgun powder, it has at least some pistol cartridges it is useful in". Powders have evolved and many have been developed in the last 20 or so years as primarily designed and developed for pistol cartridge use, and few of today's newer reloaders think of shotgun powders that way. Sorry for the trip down memory lane...
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That just happens to be pretty popular for certain hand gun rounds.
Lots of the shotgun powders of years ago were very useful in pistol cartridges; as a matter of fact, it was generally thought of as "if it is a shotgun powder, it has at least some pistol cartridges it is useful in". Powders have evolved and many have been developed in the last 20 or so years as primarily designed and developed for pistol cartridge use, and few of today's newer reloaders think of shotgun powders that way. Sorry for the trip down memory lane...[IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/eek.gif[/IMG]
Speaking of which, I have 8# of Titewad for my shotties that actually have 45 and 9mm load data for. Tempted to try them out
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Old 03-03-2020, 10:31 PM
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I been reading about a lot of different pistol powders. I'm currently using Titegroup for 45acp and will be loading a lot of 9mm later this week. I know Titegroup isn't a fan favorite for how fast it burns and how dirty it is. .
I use TiteGroup only for 9mm. Haven't noticed it's dirty (for 9).
3.8 grains with a coated 124 has accounted for the last 500 rounds I've fired.
Before that, I was using a 130gr plated bullet with good results.
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Old 03-03-2020, 10:32 PM
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Many years ago I used WST
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You are correct. I'm never one to develop anything untested, I don't try my luck that way. Looking for alternative powders others are using. I'm not pro, match shooting out anything. Just looking for a good recipe to burn ammo at the range and have fun. I currently have several powders I can try, Titegroup, HP-38, Power Pistol. But also wanted to see what others are using. Been reading more about Shooters World Powders as well. My local options aren't terrific for buying powder, so I'm at the mercy of online which of course has shipping and hazmat fees unless there is a rare special being ran
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I've had good results with HP38/231 with lighter weight bullets. I would not use it for heavy weight bullets.

My old friend had great results with power pistol and lightweight (115)FMJ bullets.
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My preferences as well. Although I have a good quantity of N320 for 9mm that performs really well, I intend to work some loads for 9mm with N330 when I have a chance to pick some up on my next quantity order from Powder Valley. I still lament the absence of SR4756.
VVN320 is terrific. To get really spectacular results from 9mm you need light bullets and a slow twist (1:32) barrel to send them, KKM is a good bet. Around 1100 FPS seems like the general sweet spot for 50 yard work.

Here’s a great load for VVN330 and Power Pistol.

Federal Gold Medal Match primers
New Starline brass
4.9 - 5.0 gr of VV N330 or 6.0 - 6.2 gr of Power Pistol (6.4 max)
1.085 - 1.090 OAL
Hornady 115 or 124 gr XTP or HAP bullet (note: Increased weight may be required with fast twist barrels)
Avoid excessive crimp

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Thanks JayhawkNavy02, that is one great performing load judging by the target. I will definitely be trying it at some point. I have a variety of 9mm pistols from different makers, I'm sure many of them are of different twist rates, some like lighter bullets and some don't, but all of them seem to like 130 gr. + bullets; most of my shooting is training SD type shooting drills, and the only 50 yd. and longer I shoot is infrequent and is shot at steel silhouettes except for my .44 mag revolver hunting load stuff.
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There are 3 powders that will run most handgun ctgs. & do it well. These 3 powders have been around for years, they are Bullseye, Unique, & 2400.
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That just happens to be pretty popular for certain hand gun rounds.
"Just happens"? I thought it was designed as an all-around pistol powder. It works well w/ any pistol caliber.
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Please don't talk about Unique. It is already getting hard to find locally.
There is plenty here in Ohio. I just bought an 8lb jug, paying $127 for it.
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There is plenty here in Ohio. I just bought an 8lb jug, paying $127 for it.
I bought a couple 8 pounders when the local shop had them. I am about half way through
My last one. I have some 1 pound containers. It is not enough to get through the shooting season.
I may have to order on line. I have always bought my powder locally.

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There are 3 powders that will run most handgun ctgs. & do it well. These 3 powders have been around for years, they are Bullseye, Unique, & 2400.
Good shooting!
Letís not leave out 231, it could be considered as popular as Bullseye.
Besides, itís racist not to mention it.
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There are 3 powders that will run most handgun ctgs. & do it well. These 3 powders have been around for years, they are Bullseye, Unique, & 2400.
Good shooting!
Let’s not leave out 231, it could be considered as popular as Bullseye.
Besides, it’s racist not to mention it. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/eek.gif[/IMG]
231 is HP38 according to Hodgdon!
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When I started out reloading for 45 Colt I went with Tight Group simply because it had that cartridge load data on the container so I figured it would work & have kept using it ever since. I guess it's working well enough that I'm not looking for another any time soon.
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231 is HP38 according to Hodgdon!
And H110 is the same as 296 according to Winchester......which is Hodgedon anyway.......wait....what?
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When I started out reloading for 45 Colt I went with Tight Group simply because it had that cartridge load data on the container so I figured it would work & have kept using it ever since. I guess it's working well enough that I'm not looking for another any time soon.
Please donít tell me thatís your loading manual!
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I've been reloading with Unique powder 40ish years , found it versatile for all of the calibers I reload for .45, .38, .357 to include 16 and 12 gauge shot shells. I used red dot and 2400 as well but unique performs well and works for me and it satisfies my reloading needs.
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