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Old 12-12-2019, 10:28 PM
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AMT 1911 question

Is this a good deal?

https://dallas.texasguntrader.com/ca...1-in-10mm.html
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Old 12-13-2019, 12:21 AM
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You can get a whole lot better gun for $1000.....
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:53 AM
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I wouldnt buy any AMT pistol.
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Old 12-13-2019, 02:04 PM
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Nope. POS
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Old 12-14-2019, 01:40 AM
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I had a hard baller and it was a great gun. Once I spent a ton of money on it.
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Old 12-14-2019, 05:38 AM
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As far as I know. They were never made in 10mm.
The general quality of the gun was for most of the production poor.
And AMT had galling problems with their stainless steel between the slide and frame.
For that kind of money you can get a used Colt Delta Elite.
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Old 12-14-2019, 03:42 PM
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For $1K you can find several new to lightly used 1911s in 10mm. I agree with I never knew they made them in 10mm. I have one I bought new in 84 I think. In 45ACP of course. I think it was $400-500 new back then. It is in the back of some safe. Have not shot it for years. The box it came in was crap as I recall and no longer exists. Never had galling problems but I bought into lubes with Teflon in them early like Tri-Flo(?). The original grips were smelly in not a good way so I put Pachmayrs on mine just after I bought it.



I bought it as it looked sort of like a Colt Gold Cup and in SS. I think Colt introduced the SS GCNM in SS in 1986 by the way.
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Old 12-14-2019, 04:35 PM
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As far as I know. They were never made in 10mm.
Yes, they did. The 10mm version was called the Javelina.

Jim

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Old 12-14-2019, 05:55 PM
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The Javelina was a longslide with a 7" barrel. I've never heard of a 5" 10mm AMT either. In any event, while a lot of owners ran AMT/IAI 1911s without any serious issues they were definitely not considered high quality, and $1000 for one is way out of line.
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Old 12-15-2019, 12:13 PM
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The Javelina was a longslide with a 7" barrel. I've never heard of a 5" 10mm AMT either. In any event, while a lot of owners ran AMT/IAI 1911s without any serious issues they were definitely not considered high quality, and $1000 for one is way out of line.
Well, this one is an IAI (same company) but is obviously not a longslide.

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Old 12-15-2019, 12:29 PM
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Old 12-15-2019, 12:34 PM
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Arcadia Machine Tool produced crude guns. Roughly machined on the inside.
Functionality mixed, but generally poor.
At one time I thought I wanted a AMT Backup 380, and I saw used one for sale it was able to strip it. Horribly crude inside and shot loose. Walked away.
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Another picture of mine with the original grips. I found them a couple years ago and they are no longer stinky but not stiff (where they would crack). The barrel on mine is only rifled on the front half. Still shoots but not real accurate.



Mine was made in Covina,CA by the way.

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Old 12-15-2019, 02:13 PM
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A little off thread but several years ago I paid $1K for a 1990 Colt Delta Gold Cup with box etc. I think it is a little more collectible than any AMT, but that is my opinion.

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Old 12-16-2019, 05:06 PM
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Well, this one is an IAI (same company) but is obviously not a longslide.

Jim
IAI Irwindale Arms Inc. Not the same company. The company went thru several incarnations , locations and ownerships.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:07 PM
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AMT/IAI was like a lot of small gun manufacturers in that they were perpetually going belly-up, then rising phoenix-like in another city or state claiming to be an entirely new company. I'd never heard of them making a 5" 10mm, but laytonj1 found the proof that they did, at least at some point. I'm old enough to remember when AMT first came on the scene and offered stainless 1911s like it was a big thing, but then Colt introduced theirs at long last and all these lower-tier manufacturers quickly faded from the scene. The thing I can't get over with AMT/IAI products is that the company must've been the world's largest consumer of sandblasting media, judging by the look of all of their guns. They started with rough, porous-looking castings then only made them look worse when they finished them.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:29 PM
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I think you can get a lot better 10mm 1911 for a grand than that...
Are you just looking for a stainless 10mm, or does this manufacture interest you, or do you think it has some collectable value?
If you're not hooked on stainless, I would grab a new RIA PRO Ultra Match 6 for around $950...The PRO Ultra Match 6 HC Big Rock can be had for about 80 bucks more...
Ruger also has a 10mm SS in their target lineup that has an MSRP of $1000...Can probably be had for the high 8s in a LGS...

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Old 12-17-2019, 12:20 AM
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There are decent, used, $800 Delta Elites on Gunbroker.
Around $1100 will get you NIB Colts.
Even some new/NOS 'older' models (no Novaks, no beavertails), in the $850-$950 range.

You want to see an interesting/obscure AMT 1911...?
Google "AMT" or "IAI" "Skipper .40",
yes, a .40 S&W caliber.
Sub-compact 'Detonics-like' frame, but WITH a normal grip safety.
Gov't length dustcover with Commander length slide.
Still sporting the adjustable target rear sight!
Still using the wide 'Gold Cup' style trigger, and wide spur hammer.
Still wearing the huge/extended controls.
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Old 12-25-2019, 06:26 PM
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AMT/IAI/etc. had an immense amount of functional troubles with the 10mm Javelina's-much more so than even the Hardballer's. A few worked but most didn't unless reworked.
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