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Old 04-20-2016, 06:17 PM
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Hammer Holdback Tools

Recently Zdragon52 made a post in which he showed us his idea of a hold-back device for holding the hammer of a Hi Power back for disassembly and reassembly of the back end of the pistol. Iíve seen a number of devices used for this, but rarely with photographs, and never as a photographic catalog of these tools. So why not start one?

If everyone will show us photos of their holdback tools and how they work, and tell us about them in this thread, then weíll have the makinís of a sticky on the subject. (BTW commercial tools are fine to discuss here too.) What say yíall?

Iíll begin by inviting Mister Zdragon52 to repost his photo here and show us how it works, and Iíll start the bidding with two of these devices I use. One is used on guns with the rowel hammer and the other is used on guns with the spur hammer. Although both are made from ordinary wire clothes hangers, the flimsy wire used by dry cleaners wonít do it. You need to use one of the sturdier coat hangers which sell for about 30 cents at Walmart. Here are the tools I use:

First, this one is intended for use with guns having the rowel hammer. Hereís how it looks before it is installed on the gun.



Here it is in actual use. It is very important to put some electricians tape on the bottom of the grip frame to the rear of the bottom of the mag well. Iím kind of paranoid about scratching the gun here, so I pad the device with electricians tape as well. Naturally all sharp ends of the wire should be smoothed off before using these tools on your pistol.



This one took some thought and turned out very well. It is intended for use with the spur hammer.



Here it is in use.





In both cases the wire will eventually bend out of specs and you have to go back with some needle nosed pliers and re-bend it to get it to work properly. But thatís a minor inconvenience considering the usefulness of these tools. I've been using these particular examples for about ten years.

OK, whoís next?
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Old 04-20-2016, 07:04 PM
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Hammer Holdback Tools

Ok I'll play. This I made from a cheap target store hanger that came with a shirt, mostly plastic but a metal hook portion. Patterned after the armorers guide but with some tape to protect the gun finish. Works with any hammer type and have used it often.



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Old 04-20-2016, 07:07 PM
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A $3.00 spring clamp from your local BigLot.





Or better yet...coat hanger wire. Save three dollars.


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Old 04-20-2016, 07:08 PM
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I just use a rubber coated 6" clamp from Harbor Freight at about $2.50...

Works pretty well, is a little awkward.

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Old 04-20-2016, 10:47 PM
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I think this post is a great idea. Thank you!
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:52 PM
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JP, Don't have a picture, but mine is similar to yours. I dipped the one I made in that liquid vinyl stuff to prevent scratching the gun.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:50 AM
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If commercial tools are allowed, we might play along also. The tool is produced to fit the HiPower and Arcus 94. Made of stainless steel with rubberized teeth. Will be on stock in 10 days.
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Old 04-21-2016, 04:36 AM
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I've used all of the above and will be disposing of them all once I get the tool from slav
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:08 AM
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If commercial tools are allowed, we might play along also. The tool is produced to fit the HiPower and Arcus 94. Made of stainless steel with rubberized teeth. Will be on stock in 10 days.
Certainly commercial tools are welcome. Could you post a photo showing how it works?
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:43 AM
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Certainly commercial tools are welcome. Could you post a photo showing how it works?
Sure:
For HiPower





And for Arcus





And a video
https://youtu.be/6r6BJw7jGOo
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Old 04-21-2016, 11:26 AM
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here is mine. Electrical tape or 3M double sided tape works better than the painters tape you see in the pic. Tool was $2.99 at Harbor Freight. I think JayPee's wire method will work much better.

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Old 04-21-2016, 04:54 PM
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Anybody ever tried zip ties? They work like a champ, but I still put electricians tape on the bottom and sides of the tang to keep the hard plastic from biting into it. I get the zip tie started down to just a skosh bigger than "on". Then I slip it over the hammer and tang oriented as you see it here and begin pulling the end of the tie down while squeezing the hammer down. I keep pulling the end until the hammer can't go down any further. It takes a little finger magic, but it is really pretty easy. Here they are on both types of hammer. When removing them I ease them back over the back of the tang and they come right off.




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Old 04-21-2016, 06:01 PM
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^ That's what I use, a zip tie. Works pretty well. But, I have one of slav's tools on order.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:44 PM
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Hello -- from the Browning Hi Power Field Service Manual
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I made it and wrapped in electrical tape. It might take a couple of nails to get the bends just right to come up with the right dimensions. It works perfectly.
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Old 04-22-2016, 05:27 PM
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Anybody ever tried zip ties? They work like a champ, but I still put electricians tape on the bottom and sides of the tang to keep the hard plastic from biting into it. I get the zip tie started down to just a skosh bigger than "on". Then I slip it over the hammer and tang oriented as you see it here and begin pulling the end of the tie down while squeezing the hammer down. I keep pulling the end until the hammer can't go down any further. It takes a little finger magic, but it is really pretty easy. Here they are on both types of hammer. When removing them I ease them back over the back of the tang and they come right off.






This is what I usually use, but plan to purchase Slav's tool when available.
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:35 AM
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Admin graciously agreed to make this a sticky, but new posts are still welcome.

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Old 04-23-2016, 01:18 PM
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Jim Gartwaites tool is simple, sturdy and effective!! http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...prod42635.aspx


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Old 04-24-2016, 11:04 PM
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Garthwaite Hammer tool

Heres some photos to show the Garthwaite tool
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:39 PM
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Thanks for the photos, Mr. Whitt. They're a big help.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:49 AM
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Easiest to use hammer holdback-so far

Many years ago, working on my BHP, I tired of the hammer hold-back hassle and came up with this little part. I THINK I made it from a large brass washer. I have lots of metal scrap, as I have a small machine shop, so it may have been something else from the brass drawer.... but here it is: The 'washer' is about 3/32" thick. A bench vice, a small saw blade and final filing made the fit "adequate" for the job then and since for the three other BHP's I still mess with.....
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:43 PM
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My solution

Years ago I made this little tool from a large brass washer. A little filing work and the fit is adequate for hammer/safety work on my BHPs (4).
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:44 PM
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BHP hammer hold back tool by BOB

Made this one from a large brass washer found in a scrap brass drawer in my shop. Works EVERY time on High Powers that I own (4).
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:43 PM
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Great tips.

Thanks.
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Dental floss.
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