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Old 01-14-2020, 08:44 AM
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I would not buy any glock. When it comes to perfection JMB beat them to it.
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Yes. Very very few people (if any) have designed a better, more versatile, better looking gun than John B. His ideas were way ahead of his time. He definitely thought "outside the box".
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:53 AM
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What RandyP was saying is correct. The most coveted 1911 on Earth (Singer) was made by a company completely unrelated to guns.

Meaning, why would anyone care who the manufacturer is? If the gun is good, it's good.

Big name respected gun makers have made & sold turds. Their name & company history did not help them. And non-gun makers have created some nice stuff.

So if Glock, or freakin' Jimmy Dean Sausages made an awesome gun I'd be on board. I don't care what company they are.

I'll leave the designer label "who are you wearing?" brand-devotion stuff to the fashion chicks.
I agree, I wasn't a Glock fan our dept went to them so I had to. I was a rangemaster so we went to school to learn Glock. I got to shoot a lot of them teaching & carrying on duty. I learned two things, they work & if they don't work it's probably the shooter. Oh maybe three things, they aren't picky about magazines, if it's a Glock magazine of proper caliber for the gun it's likely going to work.
Soooo if Glock made a 1911 (out of steel) I'd be interested.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:59 AM
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Everyone is voicing their opinion on a gun they have never seen. I’m pretty sure that if they came out with a quality piece and it was priced right, many here would change their opinion
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:24 AM
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Would you buy a 1911 made by Norinco? -------- this is a retroactive / history question.

I remember how people laughed at Norincos when they first came out. Dismissed as "Cheap Chinese crap" by nearly everyone. Usually based on nothing but name/country of origin. But now folks understand they were FAR better than they assumed.

So could Glock make a good 1911? Yes, of course they could. I cannot fathom why anyone would think otherwise.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:28 AM
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I never said a true mil spec 1911. I was (jokingly) referring to the ugly "block" of a Glock. I would imagine Glocks version of a 1911 to be blocky and not sleek and stylish like the current mil spec 1911. It would probably be a current Glock with an external hammer. Lol.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:48 PM
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This debate reminds me of the all people that have their panties in a bunch over Ford making an electric, four door, hatch back and calling it a Mustang.

I say....who gives a dam? As long as it is solid and performs like hell, when I pick mine up in 2021 it just better be hot as hell 🙂

While I think there is certainly some logic to think a Glock 1911 or an electric mustang is dumb, I tend to think most people that get upset are the ones that didn’t buy one when it turns out to be a lot better then expected and it somehow threatens them.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:04 PM
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The gun stays stuck in a holster in your truck, with less 100 rounds through it, but it's been "remarkable"?
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Yes remarkable as in it has always went bang when I wanted it to.
Not trying to give you too much crap over this, but that is analogous to saying your car is remarkable and has always started when you wanted it to, despite having just 500 miles on the odometer.

Having listened to some comments online about the newly-resurrected Colt Python I've come to the realization that a lot of guns and brands have developed reputations completely out of proportion to reality, especially among people who may like guns but are certainly not gun experts. Several cases in point:

1. Glocks are completely reliable and never jam or break, and will even fire underwater... every time.

2. Colt Pythons are the Rolls Royce of revolvers and were completely hand-built, one at a time.

3. SIG-Sauer P220/226/228 pistols are the Cadillac of semi-auto handguns and the best ever made when price isn't a consideration.

4. The 1911 is so unreliable you can't get through more than a few magazines without jamming, and it's so inaccurate you can't hit a barn from the inside, but boy that .45ACP round will send the bad guy flying with just one solid hit.

5. The Beretta 92 is a total piece of junk. Just ask my cousin's best friend who served with the Army SEALS.

The bottom line... no firearm is infallible and all brands turn out lemons from time to time. If Glock made a 1911 they would have to find a way to build it completely from steel stampings and injection-molded polymer, because that's the only way they know how to build guns. Tell Glock's employees to start hand-fitting extractors and polishing hammer hooks and watch the chaos begin.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:27 PM
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Imagine if Glock made a 1911... What would the general consensus be with us (the market) ? I own a Glock 17 personally and for what it was designed for it's been remarkable! With that said it's not my favorite gun in the box. I use it for my truck gun. Stays in my console holstered. It's reliable and accurate. But it's as ugly as hammered dog crap! No curb appeal whatsoever. I've had it a couple of years now with the round count less than 100 through it. Would anyone of y'all consider buying a Glock 1911?
I think that it is a ridiculous question. I did not read all of the replies.

However, I liken it to asking if John Deere made a Corvette would you consider buying it? There are so many variables involved (ifs) how can it be answered reasonably be answered.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:29 PM
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Imagine if Glock made a 1911... What would the general consensus be with us (the market) ? I own a Glock 17 personally and for what it was designed for it's been remarkable! With that said it's not my favorite gun in the box. I use it for my truck gun. Stays in my console holstered. It's reliable and accurate. But it's as ugly as hammered dog crap! No curb appeal whatsoever. I've had it a couple of years now with the round count less than 100 through it. Would anyone of y'all consider buying a Glock 1911?
[B][I]I think that it is a ridiculous question. I did not read all of the replies.

However, I liken it to asking if John Deere made a Corvette would you consider buying it? There are so many variables involved (ifs) how can it be answered reasonably?
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:30 PM
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I'm ok with Glock making Glocks. They have been making the same gun for a long time and it just works. The 1911 market is flooded with manufacturers and I really don't see what another manufacturer can bring to the table. Innovation for the 1911 is kind of stale. Endless grips, sights, small parts, calibers, rails, barrels, finishes. Basically you want it and if you got the $$$ you can get it. Hell they even made a set out of meteorites.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:07 PM
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:26 PM
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The gun stays stuck in a holster in your truck, with less 100 rounds through it, but it's been "remarkable"?
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Yes remarkable as in it has always went bang when I wanted it to.
Not trying to give you too much crap over this, but that is analogous to saying your car is remarkable and has always started when you wanted it to, despite having just 500 miles on the odometer. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

Having listened to some comments online about the newly-resurrected Colt Python I've come to the realization that a lot of guns and brands have developed reputations completely out of proportion to reality, especially among people who may like guns but are certainly not gun experts. Several cases in point:

1. Glocks are completely reliable and never jam or break, and will even fire underwater... every time.

2. Colt Pythons are the Rolls Royce of revolvers and were completely hand-built, one at a time.

3. SIG-Sauer P220/226/228 pistols are the Cadillac of semi-auto handguns and the best ever made when price isn't a consideration.

4. The 1911 is so unreliable you can't get through more than a few magazines without jamming, and it's so inaccurate you can't hit a barn from the inside, but boy that .45ACP round will send the bad guy flying with just one solid hit.

5. The Beretta 92 is a total piece of junk. Just ask my cousin's best friend who served with the Army SEALS.

The bottom line... no firearm is infallible and all brands turn out lemons from time to time. If Glock made a 1911 they would have to find a way to build it completely from steel stampings and injection-molded polymer, because that's the only way they know how to build guns. Tell Glock's employees to start hand-fitting extractors and polishing hammer hooks and watch the chaos begin.
That is simply outstanding! I’m still chuckling.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:54 PM
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Would you buy a 1911 made by Norinco? -------- this is a retroactive / history question.

I remember how people laughed at Norincos when they first came out. Dismissed as "Cheap Chinese crap" by nearly everyone. Usually based on nothing but name/country of origin. But now folks understand they were FAR better than they assumed.
This sort of filters over to the nostalgia thread. People had an issue with the Norincos simply because the idea of an all-American 1911 being made in communist China rubbed some people the wrong way. So they wanted to hate them. I don't think anyone questioned whether the Chinese could do it. They are masters of reverse-engineering and they certainly had lots of captured M1911A1s to go off of, not to mention plenty of factories and cheap labor to build them with.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:01 PM
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Hands down who ever did that photoshop should win the CNN Fake News Award.
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Hell I would take it, easier to mount up an RMR lol!
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:07 PM
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When that pic first came out I immediately knew it was fake because it didn't have cheap polymer sights on it.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:13 PM
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When that pic first came out I immediately knew it was fake because it didn't have cheap polymer sights on it.
And he frame isn't plastic, I think there is no way they would make it out of metal since it would undermine their sales point.
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My point is, here we are 40 years later and Glock is still putting the same cheap $.50 cent sights on their supposedly first-rate handguns. They do it because half of buyers are too dumb or inexperienced to understand the need for decent sights, and the other half are Glock geeks who will replace them with their favorite aftermarket sights anyway.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:22 PM
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A glock 1911? it’s called the STI Staccato R and it’s releasing this year hahah
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:23 PM
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Hands down who ever did that photoshop should win the CNN Fake News Award.
It's definitely a doctored picture. The actual Glock 1911 prototype has that little dangly lever on the trigger face!!
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Glock making a 1911 is about as likely as Chevrolet making a mid engine Corvette........
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Glock making a 1911 is about as likely as Chevrolet making a mid engine Corvette........
Sweet. Can't wait to buy one.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:33 PM
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I know everyone talks about G guns being reliable. I think people are brand blind.

I will use this example.....

Tesla spends more money per car in warranty repairs than any other brand. They are in last place. They are ranked 27th of 28th in reliability. Range Rover, Fiat and Chrysler are all more reliable.

But every owner loves their cars and says it’s great. They RAVE about them.

I am not saying Glock is bad....but I think G fans ignore things.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:35 PM
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I know everyone talks about G guns being reliable. I think people are brand blind.

I will use this example.....

Tesla spends more money per car in warranty repairs than any other brand. They are in last place. They are ranked 27th of 28th in reliability. Range Rover, Fiat and Chrysler are all more reliable.

But every owner loves their cars and says it’s great. They RAVE about them.

I am not saying Glock is bad....but I think G fans ignore things.
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You mean just like Harley Davidson? 😁😂😂. HD riders have memory lapses of their parts falling off or their oil leaks or the electrical problems, but they are the first to brag how dependable their big Harley is! Lol
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