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Old 01-07-2020, 04:43 AM
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Which Compact .45???

I've got a S&W 4513TSW that's been worked on as my carry .45. I'm more accurate with that gun than almost any other I own. I really like it.

But I'm thinking of something a bit smaller. (I saw a Springfield ported V10 Ultra Compact in LGS and that's sort of what got me thinking about a smaller .45)

I don't want plastic or striker fired. 1911 or not. Something all metal, preferably all steel; in .45acp; hammer-fired; new or used; and under $500.

Anyone have any ideas? (I think the Star PD falls into that category, as does a S&W CS45, but they get pricey.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:17 AM
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I Love my Colt Defender 45acp , that's all I can say .
Anything shorter than a 3" barrel for slow moving fat heavy bullet is just to short imo .

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Old 01-07-2020, 11:49 AM
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I have had an excellent experience my the (BASE PRICE) RIA, COMPACT OFFICERS .45 1911. I have owned it about 7 years, & worked it over to my taste. I could afford it - had a good time working on it + I was pleasantly surprised with its function & accuracy.
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:05 PM
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I can’t see a shorter barrel being as accurate as my 5” barrels are at 25 yds? Unless we can fit a nm barrel bushing for a 100% lockup in full battery. A shorter barrel will lose energy quickly. I’m not a fan of 9 mm’s but I think a shorter barrel in 9mm might be better.
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:26 PM
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Colt defender or Kimber TLE Ultra ii
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Old 01-07-2020, 02:33 PM
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Colt Defender or Kimber Ultra Carry.
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Old 01-07-2020, 03:57 PM
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Colt Defender or Kimber Ultra Carry.
I agree!
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Old 01-07-2020, 05:19 PM
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Colt Defender or Kimber Ultra Carry.
I also agree..

I've been carrying my Lightweight Defender daily for the past seven years and it has proven itself to be a nearly perfect CCW. Light, powerful, and easily concealable.
Save your money and get an all steel model if you desire it.
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Old 01-07-2020, 05:47 PM
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Another vote for the Colt Defender, I have been carrying mine since thevery first ones came out. Year 2000 I believe. One hell of a good pistol and more accurate than it has a right to be.
The catch is whether or not you can find one for $500.00 or less. My suggestion is to pay what you have to pay to get one rather than settle for something else just because it’s cheap.
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Old 01-07-2020, 06:57 PM
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Rock Island Armory is coming out with a 10 round, 3" barrel "1911" style pistol soon. It's not out, yet, as far as I know.
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:57 PM
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If you're open to Star pistols, you might look at the Star Firestar in .45 acp. I can't vouch for it personally, but they seem to be well thought of and less expensive than a model PD.
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Old 01-07-2020, 09:12 PM
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If you're open to Star pistols, you might look at the Star Firestar in .45 acp. I can't vouch for it personally, but they seem to be well thought of and less expensive than a model PD.
I like my Star PD and I guess it may not be a 1911. It's close enough for me as far as compact 45acp semi auto.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:12 PM
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If you're open to Star pistols, you might look at the Star Firestar in .45 acp. I can't vouch for it personally, but they seem to be well thought of and less expensive than a model PD.
I bought a new one many years ago, and although it doesn't quite fit my hand as well as my Officer's ACP, it's never malfunctioned.
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Old 01-08-2020, 05:22 AM
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If you're open to Star pistols, you might look at the Star Firestar in .45 acp. I can't vouch for it personally, but they seem to be well thought of and less expensive than a model PD.
The Star Firestar in 45 acp is a great little pistol until something breaks and then you canít get parts for it. They are a good little pistol though. I just know that Colt nailed the 3Ē 45acp on the money and the only other successful versions are copies of the Colt. If you plan on carrrying his pistol you donít want a steel frame. If it bothers you then some day you can have an insert installed but that wonít be for a very long time.

Just get the dang Colt Defender!!!
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Old 01-08-2020, 06:03 AM
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Defender and Officers ACP for me.





For collecting, I got this one many years ago..

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Old 01-08-2020, 06:15 AM
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I bought an LW Officers ACP in 1995 for $429. It had been worked over and never misses a beat. I put laser grips on it. Great little 45.

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Old 01-08-2020, 06:19 AM
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I prefer the Kimber in an officer size or a compact.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:24 AM
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I canít see a shorter barrel being as accurate as my 5Ē barrels are at 25 yds?
The shorter barrel per se won't affect much. One of the gun rags did a test on a .38 revolver a few decades ago, sawing the barrel off a bit at a time, recutting the muzzle, and shooting it in a Ransom rest. The point of impact changed each time, but the shot to shot accuracy did not.

What's more important for most shooters is sight radius. I'm one of those; I doubt my longslide is any more accurate than my Commander-length guns, but as far as actually hitting what I'm aiming at, I'm noticeably better with the longslide.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:28 AM
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Defender and Officers ACP for me.

Interesting , is that a 3.5" with a bushing ?
Please tell us more about this pistol .
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:04 AM
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All Colt Officers were 3.5” barrels with a bushing. They dropped the Officers model with the introduction of the Defender. The Defender is as good if not better than the Officers model.

The Officers model is not cheap since it is no longer made. It is not a better gun either.
It’s usually a good idea to replace the spring plug with a reverse guide rod set up from say Clark or Wilson.
Note that there are several variations to the Defender. I still like the first gens like mine the best butt the brand new ones are almost identical.
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:16 AM
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Which Compact .45???

I have a 3.3Ē shield and the LW Officers ACP. Chronograph loads.
Remington ball. 750
Remington Hollow point 230 gr. 738.

I checked because I read a review that claimed 715 for everything.

Will be checking more in the future.
I loose 75 FPS with standard 200 SWC hand loads . A lot of my ammo is marked with velocity of both like 860/776

These are 10 shot average

I am working on getting 5Ē velocity from the [email protected] barrel. Right now I am at 822 FPS for 230 grain HP. Not quite up to max with CFE Pistol. Not at +P pressure.

Getting 960 av for 185 JHP.
This = 371 fpe and PF of 177.
I think I am maxed out with this bullet. I have not chrono factory 185 yet.

230 are easier on the hands than 185.

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Old 01-08-2020, 09:41 AM
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I have a Colt Defender and Kimber Ultra TLE ii and for whatever reason recoil on the Kimber is half as much on the Colt. Both are aluminum 3" pistols but the defender is brutal to shoot in contrast and I have no idea why.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:15 AM
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My only experience in officer size 1911's is my SIG 1911 Ultra Compact that has been a very good performer for me for quite a while. It easily groups as well as my commander & full size 1911's at 15yards.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:33 AM
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I have a Colt Defender and Kimber Ultra TLE ii and for whatever reason recoil on the Kimber is half as much on the Colt. Both are aluminum 3" pistols but the defender is brutal to shoot in contrast and I have no idea why.
Willing to bet if the same ammo being used between them it's probably they probably have different recoil spring rates and setup .
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:34 AM
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All Colt Officers were 3.5” barrels with a bushing. They dropped the Officers model with the introduction of the Defender. The Defender is as good if not better than the Officers model.

The Officers model is not cheap since it is no longer made. It is not a better gun either.
It’s usually a good idea to replace the spring plug with a reverse guide rod set up from say Clark or Wilson.
Note that there are several variations to the Defender. I still like the first gens like mine the best butt the brand new ones are almost identical.
Thanks Johnny , for some reason I always thought the 3.5 Officers models had a bull barrel setup .
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