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Old 05-23-2020, 05:47 PM
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Earlier this week I ventured back into the woods to test-fire a couple of pistols I have. When I arrived at the parking area leading to the shooting spot I could hear somebody rapid-firing a rifle. I didn't think too much of it as I grabbed my portable steel target and my pack containing my gear. There was more rapid-fire shooting as I walked to the shooting pit, where I found three guys with a whole lineup of ARs and AKs laid out on a portable table with stacks of high-cap mags. There was more than one spot to shoot so I chose the area not in use. I passed the other guys and we greeted each other with pleasantries, and I proceeded to set up and do my shooting.

As I was doing so the guys with the rifles continued pouring out a constant volume of fire, and I was amazed that they somehow managed to acquire so much ammo during this pandemic that they could afford to do one mag dump after another. By contrast I didn't do any more shooting than necessary to satisfy myself that my guns were working fine, as I'm trying to conserve what ammo I have until the supply situation improves. Therefore it wasn't long before I was done shooting, and as I packed up and began to walk out I just happened to glance over at whatever targets those guys were shooting at.

There weren't any.

Those dudes blew close to a thousand rounds of ammo during the short time I was there, literally shooting at nothing but the hillside a couple hundred feet away. Aside from a piece of trash here or there they had nothing to aim at. They seemed like nice ordinary guys and they had a lot of pretty well dressed-up rifles, but... what on Earth??? All those nice guns, all that ammo, and all they came there for was to play Rambo for an hour. Granted it was their right, their guns, their ammo and their money to waste, and so forth. But when I see YouTube videos where guys are mag-dumping rifles at IPSC targets 7 yards in front of them, where I usually laugh at them, I have to admit that at least they're shooting at something!

Anyway, no offense meant to you guys whoever you were, and BTW nice collection you have. But please, get yourselves a portable target, or at least a case of cheap soda and some milk jugs, and actually use that trigger time to work on your skills. Become riflemen, not just men with rifles.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:05 PM
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Reminds me of Knob Creek machine gun videos, just dumping rounds in the terrain.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:34 PM
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Earlier this week I ventured back into the woods to test-fire a couple of pistols I have. When I arrived at the parking area leading to the shooting spot I could hear somebody rapid-firing a rifle. I didn't think too much of it as I grabbed my portable steel target and my pack containing my gear. There was more rapid-fire shooting as I walked to the shooting pit, where I found three guys with a whole lineup of ARs and AKs laid out on a portable table with stacks of high-cap mags. There was more than one spot to shoot so I chose the area not in use. I passed the other guys and we greeted each other with pleasantries, and I proceeded to set up and do my shooting.

As I was doing so the guys with the rifles continued pouring out a constant volume of fire, and I was amazed that they somehow managed to acquire so much ammo during this pandemic that they could afford to do one mag dump after another. By contrast I didn't do any more shooting than necessary to satisfy myself that my guns were working fine, as I'm trying to conserve what ammo I have until the supply situation improves. Therefore it wasn't long before I was done shooting, and as I packed up and began to walk out I just happened to glance over at whatever targets those guys were shooting at.

There weren't any.

Those dudes blew close to a thousand rounds of ammo during the short time I was there, literally shooting at nothing but the hillside a couple hundred feet away. Aside from a piece of trash here or there they had nothing to aim at. They seemed like nice ordinary guys and they had a lot of pretty well dressed-up rifles, but... what on Earth??? All those nice guns, all that ammo, and all they came there for was to play Rambo for an hour. Granted it was their right, their guns, their ammo and their money to waste, and so forth. But when I see YouTube videos where guys are mag-dumping rifles at IPSC targets 7 yards in front of them, where I usually laugh at them, I have to admit that at least they're shooting at something!

Anyway, no offense meant to you guys whoever you were, and BTW nice collection you have. But please, get yourselves a portable target, or at least a case of cheap soda and some milk jugs, and actually use that trigger time to work on your skills. Become riflemen, not just men with rifles.
Careful now.....you’re sounding like the beginning of ‘fudd’ is creeping in😂

Does make one wonder wth people find entertaining about shooting at the ‘hillside’ though, doesn’t it?
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:44 PM
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We’re they firing tracers? I’ve seen guys go crazy hosing up a hill side with tracers, specially if Uncle Sam was funding the ammo.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:51 PM
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Is ammo really that scarce? I just had 1000 rounds delivered, no problem.

Granted, Im not going to dump it all in the side of a hill in a single 30-min session, but Im not cutting back on shooting at all.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:33 PM
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A LONG time ago, when I was younger, I enjoyed "dumping ammo" at the hillside (or trees, or at the garbage dump - yes it was called garbage dump before being called land fill). But, that was a LONG time ago when I was young....
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:51 PM
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Blasting caps.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:53 PM
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... or at least a case of cheap soda and some milk jugs, and actually use that trigger time to work on your skills. Become riflemen, not just men with rifles.
That sort should never be advised to take soda or water: they'd be the same ones that leave all the crap all over the landscape and cost us all another spot to shoot.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:55 PM
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I suppose some people just want to literally "have a blast".

Still, same as you, I'd be scratching my head over it all.

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Probably not a concern in this specific instance (i.e., they appeared to be shooting at a hill), but one of the basics of firearms safety is to know your target and what's behind it. With those rifles, the fired rounds could travel a considerable distance. Not being critical, because I wasn't there, don't know the surroundings, didn't ask them, etc. But one should have some idea of what they're shooting at, and all the more so with longer-range equipment.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:58 PM
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I mean why not if you feel like it, I sometimes do some FA mags just because it's fun really
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:23 PM
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Maybe they had just bought all those guns & ammo and were just function testing them?
But still, no targets sounds kinda crazy & wasteful.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:32 PM
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They were probably making youtube videos, with the camera directly to the right of the rifle being fired. Turning money into noise seems to appeal to a certain segment...I am more impressed when I can see both the shooter, and the affect on the target in such videos.

A target with reasonable significance might be an 8 x 12" steel plate. Speed and distance may be exchanged, such that you could expect to shoot faster at near targets. If you are shooting so fast that more than half your rounds miss, slow down until your hit rate approaches 100%. Then speed up again until you start to miss a few. Practice until you do better at both speed and distance. Or, can hit smaller targets reliably at the same speed and distance.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:33 PM
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We're they using high capacity magazines or just standard capacity?
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:35 PM
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We're they using high capacity magazines or just standard capacity?
High "capacity magazines" are standard capacity magazine

Now, if you meant 100 round VS 30, then your question stands.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:55 PM
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Careful now.....you’re sounding like the beginning of ‘fudd’ is creeping in😂
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High "capacity magazines" are standard capacity magazine

Now, if you meant 100 round VS 30, then your question stands.
I'm sure "Uncle Joe" Biden could provide an ungarbled, eloquent explanation, including those 100 clip magazines he's previously cited I especially wanna know more about the latter.

(I couldn't resist)
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:05 PM
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Give me a semi auto 22lr with 25 round mags and I become Rambo.

I get what DSK is saying that it seems pointless. It's like Seinfeld "it's a show about nothing"

But hey I don't judge. As long as they were being safe and cleaned up their mess. Bless their little hearts.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:57 PM
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Careful now.....you’re sounding like the beginning of ‘fudd’ is creeping in...
I sure hope not. People have the right to do whatever they want, as long as it's safe and legal. But as I get older and curmudgeonier I tend to be less impressed with people who aren't serious about the things they do. To me a firearm is a precision tool meant to accomplish a specific task, and the more people in this country who learn to handle firearms and become good shooters the better for all of us. Those guys bought all that ammo and they can do whatever the hell they want with it, but if you're going to spend that much money on guns, mags and ammunition just so you can make a bunch of loud noise in the woods with it I can't help but shake my head. Personally I think it's a video game mentality creeping in to the firearms world, but it might just be me. I'm hoping that at least one of those guys was a decent shooter, and maybe he was just giving a couple of friends a chance to shoot real, live firearms for the first time.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:24 PM
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Sometimes a gun is a tool.
Sometimes it's art, or sports equipment, or a toy, or an investment / keepsake.

A gun is whatever you, as the owner, decide it is.

With those guys I might be a bit annoyed at the continuous racket, but otherwise, if they want to use their guns as blasting toys, fine by me.
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Well advised. But my take. People are scared. They want to know that their hardware works. Especially if they are not experienced shooters.

On the other hand, they may just have wanted to do the "Predator" scene.

Just an old guy view.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:41 PM
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Those guys learned to shoot from Hollywood and video games. Their concept of reality is non existent. The really scary part is that everything they know about life also came from Hollywood and video games. As a race we are in serious trouble.....
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:08 PM
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Their guns, their ammo, their money.

It's also their immaturity and lack of commitment to shooting on display, but that's just a personal opinion.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:20 AM
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Increases ammo company production.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:31 AM
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At the outdoor range near my house, one day I pulled in and as I was setting up I discovered someone had been there earlier and had been using Barbie Doll and other dolls as targets.

Try and figure that one out,,,,


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Decades ago on July 4th, I took pounds of powder, poured it in the middle of the street and lit it up.
Next morning a Cop rolls by, looks at the large USA burnt in the roadway and shakes his head.
All I said was, " you all thought it was fun last night".
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