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Old 04-23-2020, 09:40 AM
*Stob* *Stob* is offline
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Another 1911

I want to get a 2nd 1911. The one I have, I bought used, a Citadel. I have put a few hundred rounds though it, the only thing it wouldn't shoot reliably is 200 grain cast (powder coated) semi wadcutters. Round nose never failed. The trigger isn't the best.

I can't spend a great deal on this, $600 or less. The makers I see that offer a standard 5" pistol for my price range, are:
Rock Island
Remington R1
Taurus
American Tactical
Bersa
Cimarron
A few others are in the mix. So I'm looking for some advice and opinions from those here much more experienced with these than myself. If there is another 1911 than what I have listed please let me know.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:07 AM
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Springfield Armory Defender. I'd buy that over any of the others on your list.

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Old 04-23-2020, 10:16 AM
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Rock island tactical model II is what I would do. Good luck. I have given two of them as gifts. Neither had any problems. Great performers. They are right at 600 bucks.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:30 AM
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Stob, welcome to the forum!
If I had a 1911 that was reliable with round nose bullets I use those & not worry about it. There are a number of good RN bullets & loaded ammo on the market.
If you want a defense load I suggest Remington 230gr golden saber.. It's a bonded HP & shaped like a RN. Usually feeds well.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:50 AM
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As Harry indicated, the RIA Tac II is a fine 1911. I've owned my Commander size for several years... No issues, and it's a tack driver...
The Springfield Defender is a great all-around 1911 and can be had in most place for around $500...
The R1 is not a bad pistol...I've shot a few, and they shoot well...
As for the Taurus...Although they've made great strides in recent years with their semi-auto pistols, I'm not sure I'd jump into one of their 1911s...
I don't know much about ATI, Bersa or Cimarron 1911s...
I do own a Bersa thunder 40...It's a darn nice gun...
Good luck...There's a lot of decent stuff out there in the $600 range...You may also take a look at some used options, but that's a whole other can of worms...
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Old 04-23-2020, 01:59 PM
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Thank you all, this is the info from experience I need!

Frank, I cast my bullets, have two different round nose molds that feed fine. I powder coat them and size to .452. No leading what so ever.

Highway, I am very leery about used guns, the 2 I worry the most about is a 1911 and AR15. So many people mess with them, I don't want to buy someone's butchery.

I'll buy new, thanks!
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Old 04-23-2020, 02:18 PM
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The Springfield defender is a good buy but it is about what you have in the citadel. The rock island tac ultra with a rail would be a bit of a upgrade it has adjustable rear sight fiber optic front sight beavertail grip safety vs grips and a mag well. So basically everything you'd want. The trigger should be close to what you have and trigger jobs can be had for under a hundred bucks usually. I've also heard good things about spring kits from iirc cylinder and slide if you feel like you van do it yourself. Good luck the hunt is half the fun

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Old 04-23-2020, 03:22 PM
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I'm on my first RIA and have zero complaints. Shoots as nice as my Kimber that cost twice as much.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:41 PM
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Rock Island is good, I would also suggest American Classic by Metroarms. Mine have been good shooters and reliable. I did have a problem with my CCO, but Eagle Imports (the importer) took care of it quickly.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:05 PM
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I would go with a Springfield mil spec over all that
you listed but that's just me. I got mine new for a
little under $600.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:11 PM
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Depends on what you want it for. If you want one with a beaver tail grip safety, different sights etc or just to have 2, I completely understand. I have inexpensive ones. Mostly RIA. Love them too. All but one have had tweaks. I have a few expensive 1911s too.

I tend to like the inexpensive ones a bit better for shooting cans in the back yard. I’ve had several that took a bit a massaging to get them reliable on 200gr LSWC. For what it’s worth, massaging for 200gr LSWC happened (at least for me) about the same amount independent of gun price. Usually something really really simple too. For me, reliability is everything. Accurate is nice too. Generally, you can have more accuracy in the gun than the shooter at about all price points. At least for 99% of us. I really don’t think that there are bad 1911’s at about any price. Some may need a bit of attention. I would buy new if you can unless you know the gun.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:15 PM
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Question, are the Springfield 1911's made in the USA?
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:27 PM
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Yes they are made in the USA.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:02 PM
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If you are not going to shoot it much, any of those will do.

If you are going to actually shoot it, from that list, I'd go w/ the Remington.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:29 PM
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I'm a fan of Rock Island & Springfield 1911's, especially since I own a couple of each already and they're great shooters. But if it were my $600, I'd buy the Springfield Mil-Spec. I saw a parked version in the LGS display today for $575. It's stainless brother next to it was tagged at $610.
Of course, VA gun prices may vary from what we have here in KY. Good luck on your purchase.

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Old 04-23-2020, 08:49 PM
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Don't get in a hurry, I have bought several Colt's off GB for around that price range. I just bout a Custom Pachmayr Colt Commander for buy now at $700. I am not saying the others are junk, but just don't get in a hurry.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:50 PM
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Question, are the Springfield 1911's made in the USA?
They have been since 2013 or 14.

You will get a forged frame and slide, as well as a lowered port, and throated barrel. You will also get a gun with a warranty.
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Old 04-24-2020, 09:51 AM
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Question, are the Springfield 1911's made in the USA?
Stob, Colts are made in the U.S. & arent horribly more expensive than others. I'd also recommend Kimber.
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Old 04-24-2020, 10:22 AM
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If you think that you might ever want to do up-grades to the pistol, you're miles and money ahead if you start out with something that already has a dovetailed front sight and a "novak" style rear.
Most of all the other gizmos/mods, like triggers/safeties, and fire control parts can be user-done with a little care and patience.
If you start out with stainless you can also do the refinish work yourself after other mods are made, such as blending-in a beavertail.
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Old 04-24-2020, 06:29 PM
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I just got one of these. https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...contact_sent=1

With the money I save I got me some ammo (250rnd for $60), a spare mag ($20) and a holster ($20).
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